5th cycle planning advice

[numbere]

According to my plan Winstrol would give the “finishing touches” on my body the end of the cycle. It would also help controlling estrogen and prevent muscle waste.

The following two questions was related to the 4 th compound in my planned cycle. Is there any other aa should I consider to promote estrogen control and prevent muscle waste? If so, what would you prefer? What would be the right amount?

For NAC you give me very good advice actually I did not know I should triple the dose on a cycle. I used to have 600mg two times. So thank you for that.

About test and tren. Well, on a normal 8 weeks cycle I would not have a problem. I would just pick one of the theories out there and give it a try
Last cycle was week
1-8 100mg test prop EOD
1-2 50mg tren a EOD
2-3 75mg tren a EOD
3-6100mg tren a EOD
4-8100mg Masteron EOD
Please allow me not mention PCT at this point.

As I mentioned I never had a 12-14 weeks cycle where the planning starts getting difficult. With test I would just double the dose for the remaining weeks, but tren would step in week 6 so I am not sure if I would need to increase test at this point. Many people claims if test and tren paired together tren should be dosed on a higher range. For example on a 8 weeks cycle 300mg test and 600mg tren is better option than 500mg test and 600mg tren.

I believe this cycle should give me at least 2.20462- 3.30693lbs or 1-1.5 kg (hell how easier is this) lean mass / week from week 1-9 and in general 5- 10% Bf reduction.

All right you seem pretty adamant about this cycle so I'll help you with whatever you need.

You plan on running three compounds.

There's no need to add in a fourth just to prevent catabolism.

You don't need winny and imo 100mg EOD of mast is a waste of money.

The whole ratio of test:tren is BS.

It seems silly to me to shut your HTPA down for 9 weeks for two pounds of muscle and a 5 percent reduction in body fat.

Why not lose 5-10 percent body fat before cycling then use test plus an oral or test plus nandrolone to bulk and put on some actual muscle tissue?

[gorog25]

All right you seem pretty adamant about this cycle so I'll help you with whatever you need.

You plan on running three compounds.

There's no need to add in a fourth just to prevent catabolism.

You don't need winny and imo 100mg EOD of mast is a waste of money.

The whole ratio of test:tren is BS.

It seems silly to me to shut your HTPA down for 9 weeks for two pounds of muscle and a 5 percent reduction in body fat.

Why not lose 5-10 percent body fat before cycling then use test plus an oral or test plus nandrolone to bulk and put on some actual muscle tissue?

I would not say I am adamant, but I like considering many options before make decision.

Actually I’m shutting down my HTPA for MIIMUN 2 pounds muscle per week and MINIMUM 5%bf reduction.

The end result should be at least 18lb more LBM and 10% Bf on a 12-14 weeks cycle.

How long would it take naturally? Probably a lot more than that

You right Mast was a waste of money that is why I want to try Winstrol

Sorry I did not get this. “The whole ratio of test:tren is BS”

Losing some fat than start a bulking cycle would be another option, but as you mentioned already how little my body weight compared with my height. Can you imagine how stressful would be for me mentally to lose even more muscle until I achieve 10% bf naturally?


Even on strict ketogen diet I would end up around 170lb

I also do not like the ide of the Bulking only cycle

I know my body and If I find sometghing to bost up my apetite within a first six week I can put on lots of quality muscle

My idea to taking Winstrol about not just preventing muscle waste
It also helps reducing SHGB
It won’t effect estrogen and progestin so hopefully do not need to increase Ai and caber during cycle

Tren and mast actually worked well the end of my last cycle, but not as well as I expected so I thought Winstrol would be better option, but maybe I just need to increase the Ai during cycle at some point.
Honestly not sure what would be more beneficial.