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    Quote Originally Posted by devil-1986 View Post
    ok bro thanks alot for your usful info , no im not married , then according to this info should i drop deca and go with test only ? u think is this a better idea for me like numbere and other brothers which told me for my true second cycle ?
    also ill waiting for your deca charted
    It is difficult for me to tell you to drop Deca because it works so damn well and is a great addition to a second cycle. Recovery, however, is a bitch.

    NPP is nandrolone, but with a much shorter half life and thus a much quicker recovery.

    If you do not want to source NPP, then run the Deca, but be prepared for an 8 week lag time from the last Deca injection until you begin PCT. This means probably low dosed testosterone (like 150 mg a week) for a couple months at the end of the cycle. Switch to testosterone propionate for the last two weeks to make recovery even quicker. Run HCG with the testosterone and then do your PCT as normal (clomid, aromasin). This makes recovery from Deca much easier in spite of the increased duration of being on the testosterone.

    The problem with the standard advice is that it puts you in PCT when Deca is still active in your system and suppressing testosterone. That's stupid. It makes no sense whatsoever. Having experienced it firsthand both ways, I would urge you to learn from my experience.

    Run the half life calculations yourself based on your anticipated injection schedule and see for yourself when Deca will be low enough not to be suppressive anymore. You will discover for yourself that the standard PCT recommendation for Deca is bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldnsedentary View Post
    Run the half life calculations yourself based on your anticipated injection schedule and see for yourself when Deca will be low enough not to be suppressive anymore. You will discover for yourself that the standard PCT recommendation for Deca is bullshit.
    I agree that OP should not be using nandrolone as this is his second cycle and he had bunk gear on his first.

    However, the average person cannot come close to approximating how much exogenous nandrolone is in their system from deca injections.

    Their is much more to the pharmacokinetics of a drug than just regular half life.

    Even when calculating half life for a specific individual you need to know their volume of distribution and total body clearance rate.

    There's also half life of the distribution phase (alpha half life) and half life for the elimination phase (beta half life).

    Deca has a lot of carbon bonds (28 in total) that delay the time exogenous nandrolone is in your system.

    Due to this longer elimination time the plasma half life and tissue half life are differ greatly, complicating the process even further.

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