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    If you like going to failure on everything, doing supersets and short breaks,
    maybe you're pushing so hard it's difficult to grow.
    Both because you'll use lighter weights than you could,
    and that this high intense style is what you've been doing for so long that you're body's adapted to it.
    Like a boxer or something, you're body notice that it doesn't need to grow bigger, as that would actually make you worse at the type of training your doing.
    You said you had 2 bodybuilders helping you.
    Any chance of having a whole workout with one of them, just doing what they do, (and nothing more!) to see how that goes?

    You don't need to leave the gym exhausted every time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocToxin8 View Post
    If you like going to failure on everything, doing supersets and short breaks,
    maybe you're pushing so hard it's difficult to grow.
    Both because you'll use lighter weights than you could,
    and that this high intense style is what you've been doing for so long that you're body's adapted to it.
    Like a boxer or something, you're body notice that it doesn't need to grow bigger, as that would actually make you worse at the type of training your doing.
    You said you had 2 bodybuilders helping you.
    Any chance of having a whole workout with one of them, just doing what they do, (and nothing more!) to see how that goes?

    You don't need to leave the gym exhausted every time.
    I appreciate the help

    The thought has def. started to cross my mind.
    It just feels ..wrong.. to exercise less intense somehow. Even on the heavy days when I go 3x3 or 1rp max, I kinda feel unsatisfied back home.

    Might be a good idea.
    Last help I got from one of them was to build size and strength in legs.
    I was put on a "Russian 10x10 program" as he said.
    So 10 sets of 10 reps squats 2 times/ week. Starting from 50 kg and then up 5-10 kg each time until I reached 100 kg.
    I succeeded at last, but I didn't add any noticeable size on legs or core def.
    And the strength went away fast after I stopped the program.

    The recommendation came from the natural one. He always stick to hes programs and only tuna+pasta day in and out as diet. But he grows like a monster.
    So it might work for me to step down a little and go more heavy with more rest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiskevatten View Post
    I appreciate the help

    The thought has def. started to cross my mind.
    It just feels ..wrong.. to exercise less intense somehow. Even on the heavy days when I go 3x3 or 1rp max, I kinda feel unsatisfied back home.

    Might be a good idea.
    Last help I got from one of them was to build size and strength in legs.
    I was put on a "Russian 10x10 program" as he said.
    So 10 sets of 10 reps squats 2 times/ week. Starting from 50 kg and then up 5-10 kg each time until I reached 100 kg.
    I succeeded at last, but I didn't add any noticeable size on legs or core def.
    And the strength went away fast after I stopped the program.

    The recommendation came from the natural one. He always stick to hes programs and only tuna+pasta day in and out as diet. But he grows like a monster.
    So it might work for me to step down a little and go more heavy with more rest.


    Opposite way... heavy with very short rest periods and as intense as possible - you want size and strength then stick to hypertrophy training just don't do a set of a certain amount of reps never holdback - never waste a rep or set - 12 reps max in a total working set is all you need but must go to true failure... watch Dorian Yates' blood and guts and his warm ups & feeler sets gauge his working set weight - he's got a spotter which helps tremendously with forced reps and negatives

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    Have you gotten BW recently? Anything out of place

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    Quote Originally Posted by NACH3 View Post
    Have you gotten BW recently? Anything out of place
    Please correct me if I didn't understand it correctly, but should I press my current workout routine even harder to break the plateau?

    I did BW after last cycle. Have the papers back home unfortunately, but I remember that the doc said that all was in good order. 1 or 2
    figures that was just below average, but nothing that wouldn't sort itself out with time.
    I went back six months ago complaining that I still had back acne coming up, and the scars were red.
    He just prescribed me doxycycline and roaccutane and said that it was impossible for hormones to be a culprit anymore bcus of the time.
    That even if I had any issues before, it would be fixed by itself by now.

    Good idea to take a new test?
    In Thailand now so it's much easier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiskevatten View Post
    Please correct me if I didn't understand it correctly, but should I press my current workout routine even harder to break the plateau?

    I did BW after last cycle. Have the papers back home unfortunately, but I remember that the doc said that all was in good order. 1 or 2
    figures that was just below average, but nothing that wouldn't sort itself out with time.
    I went back six months ago complaining that I still had back acne coming up, and the scars were red.
    He just prescribed me doxycycline and roaccutane and said that it was impossible for hormones to be a culprit anymore bcus of the time.
    That even if I had any issues before, it would be fixed by itself by now.

    Good idea to take a new test?
    In Thailand now so it's much easier.


    ^^ I'm sure it is lol

    What I'm suggesting is progressive overload! HIT is one working set to true positive failure static failure follows extremely close then we have our negative phase - our strongest... exhaust all three phases and you've got no other choice to grow.

    It sounds like your doing more of a PL routine.. which takes long rest periods - remember LESS IS MORE in this lifestyle! Are you PL or BBing... or powerbuilding?!

    What's your split? Maybe a change in your split(starting with the BP which needs the most work first) then we can tailor it to suit you... read pg 41 in Marcus' Dungeon... and around pg's 1000 and a few back from where we are are re-posts by Marcus, which are incredible and gives Tons of info! Check it out

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