What testosterone level result would make you reduce your dosage?

[kelkel]

Assuming you are using T-cyp or T-eth, both of which have similar pharmacokinetics when they are molecular weight adjusted (194 mg T-eth delivers the same amount of T as 200 mg T-cyp).


If you are injecting 200 mg of T-cyp once per week (a very common protocol), and you are drawing blood for the lab at day 7 just prior to your next injection, then you peak T level on day 2 will be about 650 ng/dL higher. So a level of 900 on day 7 means that your will be peaking out at about 900 + 650 = 1550 ng/dL on day 2, which is superphysiologic. This is why I advocate (and use) more frequent and smaller doses (40 mg every 3 days) which equates to about 93 mg on a weekly basis. This level will keep you in a more stead state and constantly within physiologic range. It also has the added benefit of being able to use smaller needle. I use a single unit 28G insulin syringe to draw up and inject 0.2 mL every 3 days. The entire process takes less than 2 minutes.

Always good stuff YG!

[anoxicblaze]

Always good stuff YG!

So you feel the standard 250mg of test-e per week is too much for TRT? You would half what I have planned?

[kelkel]

Do you not have to tell them you are injecting testosterone if you volunteer to donate blood?

No. Scripted testosterone for TRT is perfectly legal. It has no bearing on donating blood. Test is test, be it endogenously produced or exogenously injected.

So you feel the standard 250mg of test-e per week is too much for TRT? You would half what I have planned?

250mgs per week is not "standard" anywhere other than with some clinics who make more money when they sell more. Larger doses simply equal more problems when starting out. An average starting dose would be 100 mgs per week or so. Then titrate at first BW based on results and symptoms.

[anoxicblaze]

No. Scripted testosterone for TRT is perfectly legal. It has no bearing on donating blood. Test is test, be it endogenously produced or exogenously injected.




250mgs per week is not "standard" anywhere other than with some clinics who make more money when they sell more. Larger doses simply equal more problems when starting out. An average starting dose would be 100 mgs per week or so. Then titrate at first BW based on results and symptoms.

125mg it is then. Thanks. Maybe this is why vials come in 100mg from the chemist (I am told) and 250mg on the black market.

[kelkel]

125mg it is then. Thanks. Maybe this is why vials come in 100mg from the chemist (I am told) and 250mg on the black market.

Great choice. I still highly recommend splitting it into two injections per week as stated in post 9.

[anoxicblaze]

Great choice. I still highly recommend splitting it into two injections per week as stated in post 9.

Right now I can't do that as I have 1ml vials. Each 250mg. This also mean halving it will waste half of each vial, which is a shame.

[kelkel]

Right now I can't do that as I have 1ml vials. Each 250mg. This also mean halving it will waste half of each vial, which is a shame.

Easy fix. Buy some sterile vials on the internet and simply transfer it into them. Research chem sites have them.

[Youthful55guy]

So you feel the standard 250mg of test-e per week is too much for TRT? You would half what I have planned?

Though others here may disagree with me, I think 250 mg weekly is way, way too much and you will eventually have problems with polycythemia (excessive red blood cell production). I doubt that at that dose your maximum allowable blood donations will be sufficient to correct for it. You will need to get a script for more frequent donations. This will then probably cascade into other problems (such as thyroid), since you will be taxing your body's iron supply unless you do supplementation and monitor iron and ferritin levels. You also risk other side-effects such as excessive aromatizing to E2 and will need to monitor it too and use appropriate drugs to counteract it.

I highly recommend that lower and more frequent dosing.

[MuscleScience]

Though others here may disagree with me, I think 250 mg weekly is way, way too much and you will eventually have problems with polycythemia (excessive red blood cell production). I doubt that at that dose your maximum allowable blood donations will be sufficient to correct for it. You will need to get a script for more frequent donations. This will then probably cascade into other problems (such as thyroid), since you will be taxing your body's iron supply unless you do supplementation and monitor iron and ferritin levels. You also risk other side-effects such as excessive aromatizing to E2 and will need to monitor it too and use appropriate drugs to counteract it.

I highly recommend that lower and more frequent dosing.

250ml is a very tolerable dosage. I doubt he would have much if any problems at that level. Of Course an A.I. Should be ran though.

[kelkel]

250ml is a very tolerable dosage. I doubt he would have much if any problems at that level. Of Course an A.I. Should be ran though.

No doubt it's tolerable but without question it's not an appropriate starting dose for TRT, imho anyway. Always best to start lower and titrate up based on BW than to start high and then have to mitigate the issues, E2, Hema, etc.

[MuscleScience]

No doubt it's tolerable but without question it's not an appropriate starting dose for TRT, imho anyway. Always best to start lower and titrate up based on BW than to start high and then have to mitigate the issues, E2, Hema, etc.

Oh, guess I missed he was doing TRT instead of cycling.