Training on gear

[KJ419]

How long are you doing this training regime? I'm guessing since your on Clen your goal is to cut?

Steroids more than anything help the body recover from exercise, you can up your intensity and volume to a point. Just make sure you build in rest and reloading period

I've been doing the same split for about 4-5 months now. Only difference is before the Var I did 3 days for strength and 3 days for endurance but since starting the Var I've been doing all high reps. Definitely trying to cut while also building as much muscle as I can! Before I started the Clen I noticed my recovery time decreased. Not sure if it's the Var or if it's high reps twice per muscle group a week. Noticed a significant drop in energy since starting the Clen though so it's like a double whammy of decreased recovery time and energy levels BUT my muscles are definitely more solid and defined. Just sucks to feel like I'm hurting more and tired AF all.the.time since I thought it would do the opposite for me


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[MuscleScience]

I've been doing the same split for about 4-5 months now. Only difference is before the Var I did 3 days for strength and 3 days for endurance but since starting the Var I've been doing all high reps. Definitely trying to cut while also building as much muscle as I can! Before I started the Clen I noticed my recovery time decreased. Not sure if it's the Var or if it's high reps twice per muscle group a week. Noticed a significant drop in energy since starting the Clen though so it's like a double whammy of decreased recovery time and energy levels BUT my muscles are definitely more solid and defined. Just sucks to feel like I'm hurting more and tired AF all.the.time since I thought it would do the opposite for me


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It sounds like you need to build in some deload weeks soon. Meaning you still train just not as frequently or as intense as you have been. I do this every 4-6 weeks. It just helps the body get caught up from all the training. You will probably notice an immediate increase in gains the weeks following.

[KJ419]

It sounds like you need to build in some deload weeks soon. Meaning you still train just not as frequently or as intense as you have been. I do this every 4-6 weeks. It just helps the body get caught up from all the training. You will probably notice an immediate increase in gains the weeks following.

Thank you so incredibly much! I've never heard of that but it sound like just what I need!! I am going to try that when I lose the steam that I'm currently running on lol I'm hoping I'll feel a little more energized on the rest weeks of clen. 4 more days of clen and then I'm off for 2 weeks so I'm praying I feel a little more bippity boppity when I take a break haha


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[MuscleScience]

Thank you so incredibly much! I've never heard of that but it sound like just what I need!! I am going to try that when I lose the steam that I'm currently running on lol I'm hoping I'll feel a little more energized on the rest weeks of clen. 4 more days of clen and then I'm off for 2 weeks so I'm praying I feel a little more bippity boppity when I take a break haha


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They key is to get your deload before you run out of steam. Why recharge when you can take time off and supercharge?!?

[KJ419]

They key is to get your deload before you run out of steam. Why recharge when you can take time off and supercharge?!?

Uh, so true! I think I'll start tomorrow then since I feel so drained already. I just hate the guilt that comes along with feeling like I'm not pushing myself hard enough but I know I'd feel worse if I didn't train at all haha the MF'n struggle is real!!!!!


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[AKD_FitChick]

Uh, so true! I think I'll start tomorrow then since I feel so drained already. I just hate the guilt that comes along with feeling like I'm not pushing myself hard enough but I know I'd feel worse if I didn't train at all haha the MF'n struggle is real!!!!!


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You sound so much like me and yes the guys are right! My lifting to me is my church. It's my peace, my release, my time. I only have one speed.....one know.....push!

But I am learning too, rest before you are forced to rest by injury or burn out, it will be that much harder.

I train very different then you, but my goals were to gain more mass and cut after the vR cycle.


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[PT1982]

It sounds like you need to build in some deload weeks soon. Meaning you still train just not as frequently or as intense as you have been. I do this every 4-6 weeks. It just helps the body get caught up from all the training. You will probably notice an immediate increase in gains the weeks following.

Heed this advice! And I would scrap any "core" workouts because if you are doing compound exercises and the right movements, your core is going to catch up to support the weights and the rest of the body building up. It's ok to hit abs or something at the end of a workout, but it's not necessary. But MS has you covered. Don't get into the same routine week after week. Mix things up. Maybe do a routine for 4-6 weeks, deload a couple of weeks, then do a different routine for 4-6 weeks. And I'm a big proponent of heavy weights with high imtensity. I want to walk in the gym with a focus to tear my muscles to pieces. Grit my teeth, make my mind get to where it has to be, and I want to leave after about 20-30 minutes with someone having to help me get in my truck.

[KJ419]

Heed this advice! And I would scrap any "core" workouts because if you are doing compound exercises and the right movements, your core is going to catch up to support the weights and the rest of the body building up. It's ok to hit abs or something at the end of a workout, but it's not necessary. But MS has you covered. Don't get into the same routine week after week. Mix things up. Maybe do a routine for 4-6 weeks, deload a couple of weeks, then do a different routine for 4-6 weeks. And I'm a big proponent of heavy weights with high imtensity. I want to walk in the gym with a focus to tear my muscles to pieces. Grit my teeth, make my mind get to where it has to be, and I want to leave after about 20-30 minutes with someone having to help me get in my truck.

THANK YOU!!! Uh! I was thinking today that I will switch up my routine. Maybe something like this:
chest/tris/cardio
quads/calves
bi's/shoulders/cardio
Rest
back/traps/cardio
hams/calves
Rest

Still not sure about the high reps vs heavy weight but I definitely love heavy weight over high reps. Love when I can out lift the boys at my gym haha and feel like such a baby when I'm doing my lower weight/high rep routine although the pump is CRAZY!! Especially when I do well over 50 reps and pretty much go until I feel the muscle will explode outta my body lol


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[PT1982]

THANK YOU!!! Uh! I was thinking today that I will switch up my routine. Maybe something like this:
chest/tris/cardio
quads/calves
bi's/shoulders/cardio
Rest
back/traps/cardio
hams/calves
Rest

Still not sure about the high reps vs heavy weight but I definitely love heavy weight over high reps. Love when I can out lift the boys at my gym haha and feel like such a baby when I'm doing my lower weight/high rep routine although the pump is CRAZY!! Especially when I do well over 50 reps and pretty much go until I feel the muscle will explode outta my body lol


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Im with you on the pumps. I always, always end arm day with low/moderate weight with high reps. Just one reverse pyramid set. My basic routine for most all muscle groups is the heaviest weight possible that I fail at aboutt the 5th or 6th rep. Then I'll take a short 30-45 second break and hit it again with the same weight and force every last rep I can get. On smaller muscles like arms, I usually will do 4 sets of 4-6 reps. Larger muscles like back and legs (sometimes delts), I so 3 working sets. I respond well, as most do, with 3-4 sets of about 3 exercises per muscle group. On paper it looks as if it's a lazy and half a**ed workout, but in reality it is much more exhaustive than high reps with lower weight. Body composition has a more rapids onset with heavy weights and low reps. But it takes years to perfect and know exactly how your body responds, and we're all different.

[KJ419]

Im with you on the pumps. I always, always end arm day with low/moderate weight with high reps. Just one reverse pyramid set. My basic routine for most all muscle groups is the heaviest weight possible that I fail at aboutt the 5th or 6th rep. Then I'll take a short 30-45 second break and hit it again with the same weight and force every last rep I can get. On smaller muscles like arms, I usually will do 4 sets of 4-6 reps. Larger muscles like back and legs (sometimes delts), I so 3 working sets. I respond well, as most do, with 3-4 sets of about 3 exercises per muscle group. On paper it looks as if it's a lazy and half a**ed workout, but in reality it is much more exhaustive than high reps with lower weight. Body composition has a more rapids onset with heavy weights and low reps. But it takes years to perfect and know exactly how your body responds, and we're all different.

ooooh I think I'm going to try a combo of heavy weight and end with high reps on some lifts. I've been doing 4-5 exercises per muscle group and 3-4 sets with high reps but on heavy days, I do 4-5 sets of 8-10 reps. Since I'm switching up my routine to include an extra rest day, I need to write out a new routine. Will try to post my current routine today! Work has been crazy lately!!!

Anyways, THANK YOU for all the info!!

[PT1982]

ooooh I think I'm going to try a combo of heavy weight and end with high reps on some lifts. I've been doing 4-5 exercises per muscle group and 3-4 sets with high reps but on heavy days, I do 4-5 sets of 8-10 reps. Since I'm switching up my routine to include an extra rest day, I need to write out a new routine. Will try to post my current routine today! Work has been crazy lately!!!

Anyways, THANK YOU for all the info!!

Shoot yeah! And keep up posted on everything. The more I learn from a woman's perspective, the better off I am for reasons I've mentioned. I'll post up a routine that I'm working with a woman right now who's on the verge of stardom. She's 29 years old, 5'7", 165lbs and sub 20 body fat. She'll be sub 15 in a few weeks. I'll post her "bulk" routine up when I get home. She's on more of a cut at the moment, and you dont need that right now.