Coming off Tomorrow

[Jonbana]

I also agree with running hcg first.

so you run HCG once test has clear by itself than throw in the clomid and nov

[Marcus G]

so you run HCG once test has clear by itself than throw in the clomid and nov

You can start it right away but I'd wait until test has cleared. Run it for 10-12 days wait 3 days then start serms protocol. If you can't get hcg the serms cycle Could well be infective because in-proper testicular function.

[Jonbana]

You can start it right away but I'd wait until test has cleared. Run it for 10-12 days wait 3 days then start serms protocol. If you can't get hcg the serms cycle Could well be infective because in-proper testicular function.

Ok , Im gonna try and get HCG today if I cannot your saying stay away completely and don't bother trying? I read this

The famous PoWeR PCT that i plan to use:
Days 1-16 HCG 2500Iu EOD
Days 1-30 Clomid 100mg ED
Days 1-45 nolva 20mg ED

they start the serms right away notice you waited till after the HCG

[Marcus G]

Ok , Im gonna try and get HCG today if I cannot your saying stay away completely and don't bother trying? I read this

The famous PoWeR PCT that i plan to use:
Days 1-16 HCG 2500Iu EOD
Days 1-30 Clomid 100mg ED
Days 1-45 nolva 20mg ED

they start the serms right away notice you waited till after the HCG

No I'm not saying if you can't don't bother. Id have said that if I ment it. That dose of clomid is excessive for 30 days. The reason I say don't use serms with hcg is because hcg actually suppress the HPTA

[Jonbana]

No I'm not saying if you can't don't bother. Id have said that if I ment it. That dose of clomid is excessive for 30 days. The reason I say don't use serms with hcg is because hcg actually suppress the HPTA

lets say I cannot get HCG that's realiable what would your approach be , if I stop today it would be 7 days since last pin so I would started the protocol day 14 1 week today

[Marcus G]

lets say I cannot get HCG that's realiable what would your approach be , if I stop today it would be 7 days since last pin so I would started the protocol day 14 1 week today

It you can't get it then follow the serm protocol 14 days after last test pin

[Marcus G]

You could also see if you can get hmg.

[PT1982]

You could also see if you can get hmg.

Have you priced that stuff? WHOA! I've been after it for a couple months now.

[Mr.BB]

Ok , Im gonna try and get HCG today if I cannot your saying stay away completely and don't bother trying? I read this

The famous PoWeR PCT that i plan to use:
Days 1-16 HCG 2500Iu EOD
Days 1-30 Clomid 100mg ED
Days 1-45 nolva 20mg ED

they start the serms right away notice you waited till after the HCG

This is a ols scallys power pct. He has updated the HCG amount.

Dont use too much HCG as your testis may gain resistance to it (and therefore to LH) making recovery impossible.

[Jonbana]

This is a ols scallys power pct. He has updated the HCG amount.

Dont use too much HCG as your testis may gain resistance to it (and therefore to LH) making recovery impossible.

Thanks a lot guys , im seeing my supplier today
I don't think HCG its going to be possible , but I can get clomid and nova no problem I see my doctor this week as well im gonna tell him im stopping TRT I want HCG but I doubt he would give me anything

not without HCG I no its not optimal but still possible ? lets say I do the clomid and nova and does not work , can I later down the road try HCG with pct again or would I be best to get back on TRT

[Jonbana]

I know I should probably wait for my doctor and see what he does but this has been on my mind for a while so I figured might as well try worst case I jump back on not a big deal ,

as for clomid my pills are 50mg and nova are 40mg not a fan of cutting pills but i can , would it make sense to run clomid at 100 for a week than drop to 50?


I just hope I don't regret stopping TRT and waste time trying to recover to get back on when I could of just lowered my dosage and stayed on ,

main reason im wanting off I feel no sex drive , im always bloated and un wanted weight gain no matter how hard I try to cut and ive tried everyone I was my best shape with low t and natural

also any links for injecting into thighs ive only seen stomach for HCG