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    Quote Originally Posted by pudgeball View Post
    I've tried 5htp in the past, but it never made me sleepy enough to use it by itself . Also I'm taking paxil, an SSRI, and my doctor told me to not combine the two due to the risk of serotonin syndrome . I've tried Mg2+ and it did help a little to quell anxiety but it was no benzodiazepine .
    Don't get me wrong, I've got anxiety issues myself, and if I'm dealing with something the next day that gets my mind racing the night before I take 0.5 Lorazpam, which is a very small dose. And nothing beats those meds. If you get your full night sleep on it you don't feel groggy. But because my job can be intense and requires a lot of thinking during the day, I somehow manage to do with out the aid because I'm just done and fall asleep at night.lol..but I wouldn't use it everyday. I use it as an absolute last resort.

    Further to that, in my experience when I take those meds, I don't get a good restful deep REM sleep. I get the hours of sleep but I don't wake up feeling "wow, I feel refreshed" compared to nights of natural deep REM sleep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeyToronto View Post
    Don't get me wrong, I've got anxiety issues myself, and if I'm dealing with something the next day that gets my mind racing the night before I take 0.5 Lorazpam, which is a very small dose. And nothing beats those meds. If you get your full night sleep on it you don't feel groggy. But because my job can be intense and requires a lot of thinking during the day, I somehow manage to do with out the aid because I'm just done and fall asleep at night.lol..but I wouldn't use it everyday. I use it as an absolute last resort.

    Further to that, in my experience when I take those meds, I don't get a good restful deep REM sleep. I get the hours of sleep but I don't wake up feeling "wow, I feel refreshed" compared to nights of natural deep REM sleep.
    Yup. Exactly all those things . I feel like I am just getting a light sleep Instead of something truely restorative . I'm also on 4mg of klonopin which is the equivalent of eight 0.5 lorazepam/ativan tablets a day. And then I still have to take a belsomra 20mg for sleep. There's got to be a better way. All these meds are really bogging my progress down

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    Quote Originally Posted by pudgeball View Post
    Yup. Exactly all those things . I feel like I am just getting a light sleep Instead of something truely restorative . I'm also on 4mg of klonopin which is the equivalent of eight 0.5 lorazepam/ativan tablets a day. And then I still have to take a belsomra 20mg for sleep. There's got to be a better way. All these meds are really bogging my progress down
    If you decide you want to try going off of the benzos, speak with your Dr. first. You will need to be weaned off of them very gradually.

    Edit: I think you may not give yourself enough credit, though. Just out of curiosity, what is your injection protocol for the Delatestryl?
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    Quote Originally Posted by almostgone View Post
    If you decide you want to try going off of the benzos, speak with your Dr. first. You will need to be weaned off of them very gradually.

    Edit: I think you may not give yourself enough credit, though. Just out of curiosity, what is your injection protocol for the Delatestryl?
    1cc once a week and I'm done. I really don't like shots but there aren't many other options that are as convienient for a forgetful patient like me.

    I am kind to myself however , before my sleep got worse and I was on all these psychiatric medications I was in better shape and could make progress more quickly. It's like I'm spinning my wheels on these drugs and they just neuter you physique wise .

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    Quote Originally Posted by pudgeball View Post
    1cc once a week and I'm done. I really don't like shots but there aren't many other options that are as convienient for a forgetful patient like me.

    I am kind to myself however , before my sleep got worse and I was on all these psychiatric medications I was in better shape and could make progress more quickly. It's like I'm spinning my wheels on these drugs and they just neuter you physique wise .
    Perhaps the Drs. can cut back on them in the future. I was just thinking that you might benefit from 2x/week injections? It gets rid of the swings in hormone levels when you are on a less frequent injection schedule. Obviously, you can't just drop your meds, but maybe you could optimize your TRT and get a little relief from the anxiety and worry, and also progress a little faster towards you lifting goals?
    Is this a self prescribed TRT or a Dr. ordered TRT? How often are your levels checked, what tests do they run when your levels are checked, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by almostgone View Post
    Perhaps the Drs. can cut back on them in the future. I was just thinking that you might benefit from 2x/week injections? It gets rid of the swings in hormone levels when you are on a less frequent injection schedule. Obviously, you can't just drop your meds, but maybe you could optimize your TRT and get a little relief from the anxiety and worry, and also progress a little faster towards you lifting goals?
    Is this a self prescribed TRT or a Dr. ordered TRT? How often are your levels checked, what tests do they run when your levels are checked, etc.
    I have been on brand Delatestryl since early 2013 . I get tested once a year . I specifically have a standard cbc/triglyceride panel and have free and total testosterone looked at . I used to be on 2x a week injections however I really don't like shots . My doctor and I decided we could get by with once a week and perhaps even 2x a month in the future . (To avoid annoying shots - shots are the main reason why I miss taking my Delatestryl occasionally) . I also was offered to go as high as 400mg a week but again that's more side effects vs benefits . I have no clue if bad effects will outweigh any positive psychiatric effects. Judging by the PI sheet on Delatestryl it seems like most folks get insomnia , anxiety , depression, and hypersexuality as common psychiatric side effects. I dunno if this applies to Depo-Testosterone , or Aveed.

    And yes all of my medications are Rx'ed by a Doctor. I have enough psychiatric drama and torment and the last thing I need are hellish anxiety attacks about being in a criminal. Have way too much on my absurdly inappropriately emotional plate.
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