is this cycle overkill for my goals?

[The Deadlifting Dog]

forget what I said....
didn't realize that you are already in the middle of a cycle and looking for further gains.

I personally think your cycle in overkill.
overly complicated.
Are you taking any hCG or AI or DA?
How much have you gained already from this cycle?
What was the surgery for??

[tsuchi]

forget what I said....
didn't realize that you are already in the middle of a cycle and looking for further gains.

I personally think your cycle in overkill.
overly complicated.
Are you taking any hCG or AI or DA?
How much have you gained already from this cycle?
What was the surgery for??

surgery was at the jaw. could not train or eat any solid food for about 20 days. i was around 200 libs before surgery at the beginning of july ( 3 months post last cycle this spring ) at the end of my stop after surgery i was around 170.

now at the beginning of week 5 in my cycle, and beeing fully able to train at almost my max, and eat all solid food i'm back a 190, but i'm leaner than when i was 200 before usrgery, becouse during my liquid only diet time i have lost a bit of fat too.


My goal is to at the very least go back to the weight i was last time i cycled ( wich was around 215 ) that's why i wan't another 20 or so libs, becouse i'm not yet at full power again, and having to do this big of a cycle to not even be again as good as i was last time whit half of this shit triggers me like hell...but oh well, it seems it's gonna be this way...


mot taking any Ai ath the moment, whit only 300 test and 300 winny and primo i feel is not needed, will start using nolva, and maybe something else too when i start the tren combination.

no hcg untill pct, i bloat like a mofo on it ( it works on me super well,both in the good and the bad ways ) i feell it ruins my cycles, but i surely will use it to pct, i think i will do my usual clomid,hcg,proviron protocol