What's is a optimal testosterone level?

[JdFlex]

Yes, there are ways to manipulate your test levels, but why in the hell would you want to? Get an accurate reading or you will be sorry. No if, ands, or buts. I promise you that if you do this you will be sorry in the long run. Please don't manipulate the bloodwork! If you're in range, even on the low side, you don't want to be on it. I know it is tempting, but I'm telling you it's not all its cracked up to be. Especially if you think you'll want children one day. I'm not trying to be a downer or discouraging you. I'm truly giving you sound advice that you'll only understand if you get to the point I am. Get the bloodwork and post it up and let us try to help you from there. If you need it because you truely are low, great. Get on it. But if you're in the low normal, let's pull our resources together and try some things out. I've got a few pseudo hrt protocols that can give you the boost you need to get to feeling normal again. Go the conservative route first and get on trt as your last resort. Good luck in this.

If trying to have kids then definitely do not go on TRT. But otherwise, why not, outside of heart problems or something serious? If levels are low normal but feeling is low why not manipulate to get a blood test result that will allow a Dr to not only prescribe but monitor with regular blood work TRT? I disagree, I want to be on it. I'm 40 and I feel great being on. Its about quality of life at the end of the day IMO.

[jstone]

If trying to have kids then definitely do not go on TRT. But otherwise, why not, outside of heart problems or something serious? If levels are low normal but feeling is low why not manipulate to get a blood test result that will allow a Dr to not only prescribe but monitor with regular blood work TRT? I disagree, I want to be on it. I'm 40 and I feel great being on. Its about quality of life at the end of the day IMO.

Manipulating your bloodwork to gain trt is something we don't recommend. To me manipulating a doctor to receive trt is wrong. It's also a character flaw, I have many, but i would never scam anybody for anything. Your scamming the doctor for something you can buy all day long virtually anywhere. It's easier to buy testosterone than it is to buy injectable methylcobalmin(sp). So why scam your doctor, a doctor patient relationship should have a foundation of trust, and honesty.

[JdFlex]

Manipulating your bloodwork to gain trt is something we don't recommend. To me manipulating a doctor to receive trt is wrong. It's also a character flaw, I have many, but i would never scam anybody for anything. Your scamming the doctor for something you can buy all day long virtually anywhere. It's easier to buy testosterone than it is to buy injectable methylcobalmin(sp). So why scam your doctor, a doctor patient relationship should have a foundation of trust, and honesty.

I hear what you're saying.

Believe it or not it was my Dr who told me to scam the bloodtest. When I met him I was open and honest telling him I was on self-prescribed TRT b/c my numbers were low and I didn't feel well. He told me to stop, wait 4 weeks, then get another bloodtest. I asked....but won't my levels be crashed.....and he said yes. That made me question his integrity but he looked at my past bloodtests and said it was the best way to proceed going on TRT (insurance wise, etc).

[PT1982]

If trying to have kids then definitely do not go on TRT. But otherwise, why not, outside of heart problems or something serious? If levels are low normal but feeling is low why not manipulate to get a blood test result that will allow a Dr to not only prescribe but monitor with regular blood work TRT? I disagree, I want to be on it. I'm 40 and I feel great being on. Its about quality of life at the end of the day IMO.

Needing to be on and wanting to be on are 2 totally different things. If a person is in range, manipulating the tests in order to get prescribed test is absurd. If you need it the quality on life goes up for sure.