How bad are AAS' for you really?

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No, not everything is about money. But many things are. And it makes no monetary sense to legislate against the fossil fuel industry, and the fossil fuel industry is the biggest industry in the world. Renewables will make energy cheaper eventually, which means the total revenue will shrink, i.e. less money. So your argument doesn't hold. If it's about money, then exxon would be winning this one by a hundred miles.

Yes, you do need to believe some basic facts. Like the earth is not flat, like we were not on this earth at the same time as t-rex.

Some of these dudes sound like COMPLETE morons, and you'd listen to an absolute moron, who has no medical credentials, talk about medical issues related to roids? If your average bro who pumps and roids had a medical degree and is a practicing cardiologist or endocrinologist, it would be good to listen to them. If they deny basic facts, and then say it's bullshit that roids have bad effects, and they have no basis for saying so other than that they haven't dropped dead yet, you'd listen?? Wow

Read this carefully. I drove a 1977 ford that got 29 miles per gallon. My trucks nowaverage about 12-14 because of emissions standards. Do you have any clue how much more fiel is consumed by engines because of emissions standards? My motherfucking chainsaws get half the economy they used to.

Get it? Burn twice the fuel, save the planet.

You just proved my point.

EVERYTHING IS ABOUT MONEY .

You probably believe in "free" education and "free" healthcare. All of us individuals just serve you because we care about you....

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Read this carefully. I drove a 1977 ford that got 29 miles per gallon. My trucks nowaverage about 12-14 because of emissions standards. Do you have any clue how much more fiel is consumed by engines because of emissions standards? My motherfucking chainsaws get half the economy they used to.

Get it? Burn twice the fuel, save the planet.

You just proved my point.

EVERYTHING IS ABOUT MONEY .

You probably believe in "free" education and "free" healthcare. All of us individuals just serve you because we care about you....

Dude, emission standards are designed to INCREASE your mpg! You are contradicting yourself. You are saying global warming is BS, it's about money, to increase Al Gore's holdings, which are all renewables, but now you're saying that emissions standards (which you are getting backwards) actually increase money to the oil companies. So by your first logic, global warming is about helping renewables business and hurting oil, and by your second argument you are saying it's helping big oil.

"Free" k-12? Yes. Free healthcare? Only for accident coverage. I don't know why I'm debating someone who is debating himself, but no I come from a high tax region and am in a high tax bracket. Not only does the economy I live in and work in carry the dumbass red states economically, we pay an unfair share of taxes too. But nice try.

[Obs]

Dude, emission standards are designed to INCREASE your mpg! You are contradicting yourself. You are saying global warming is BS, it's about money, to increase Al Gore's holdings, which are all renewables, but now you're saying that emissions standards (which you are getting backwards) actually increase money to the oil companies. So by your first logic, global warming is about helping renewables business and hurting oil, and by your second argument you are saying it's helping big oil.

"Free" k-12? Yes. Free healthcare? Only for accident coverage. I don't know why I'm debating someone who is debating himself, but no I come from a high tax region and am in a high tax bracket. Not only does the economy I live in and work in carry the dumbass red states economically, we pay an unfair share of taxes too. But nice try.

We are done. Every single emissions standard decreases fuel economy. Who is that good for?

Engine manufacturers have had to reduce valve to cylinder clearance to such extreme levels that all the newer engines are interference engines. Break your timing belt or chain and you get a new engine. They only did this because they were trying to squeeze all the horsepower they could out of an engine choking on its own exhaust. Catalytic converter, egr, scr, reburner, any emissions reduces fuel mileage causing you to get less fuel economy.

Those red states that you carry, they are the agriculture states, the ones that actually perform the greatest part of the largest industry in the world. Oh fuck I will die without these cities!

No....
Wait...

Thats backwards huh?
Thank you for your miniscule employment taxes.
I have many friends with over 20 million in farm equipment. This isn't the 1950's, we arent dumbasses pushing plows.

You have accused people here of acting superior but this last post shows how you really feel about yourself. You are a douchebag. Go somewhere else.

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We are done. Every single emissions standard decreases fuel economy. Who is that good for?

Engine manufacturers have had to reduce valve to cylinder clearance to such extreme levels that all the newer engines are interference engines. Break your timing belt or chain and you get a new engine. They only did this because they were trying to squeeze all the horsepower they could out of an engine choking on its own exhaust. Catalytic converter, egr, scr, reburner, any emissions reduces fuel mileage causing you to get less fuel economy.

Those red states that you carry, they are the agriculture states, the ones that actually perform the greatest part of the largest industry in the world. Oh fuck I will die without these cities!

No....
Wait...

Thats backwards huh?
Thank you for your miniscule employment taxes.
I have many friends with over 20 million in farm equipment. This isn't the 1950's, we arent dumbasses pushing plows.

You have accused people here of acting superior but this last post shows how you really feel about yourself. You are a douchebag. Go somewhere else.

Really? Want me to quote you statistics about every red state's favorite enemy, California, and the size of it's agrictulture. By FARRR the biggest Ag producer in the country.

20 million?!? OOooohhh. Not 20 MILLION! I worked for a company that does $4B in ag revenue in liberal old california. Who gives a shit?!? You brought up the whole taxes and free this and that. I just corrected you. Red states get bailed out by blue states. Have fun on your laptop or cellphone, hitting the internet, tweeting your ass off or facebooking away, and thank california for all of that. Thank a blue state for your medicines, technology, engineered products and reason for our country being the economic power it is. And thank a blue state for subsidizing you. We pay for your state's pork spending. You're welcome son.