Stacks or no?

[ryguy199980]

Would something like 500mg of test be more effective at building muscle than 250mg test 200mg of tren?
How powerful is test compared to tren?
Love to have a convo with someone experienced!

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[GearHeaded]

I've ran 2000 mg of test. I've also ran virtually zero test but ran anabolics like like deca and masteron. I've also stacked test at moderate doses with other compounds dozens and dozens of times. I have to say that "test is NOT the best" when it comes to building muscle and doing so efficiently with the least amount of negative sides.

250 test with 200 tren is much more potent then just 500 test.. the test Tren combo won't even require an AI, the 500 test may.
unless your new and haven't ran cycles before. then 300mg of test would work just fine. the drug combinations really only matter once your a little more advanced.

for whats its worth, Tren is 5x more anabolic and androgenic then test. but don't be deceived, you can actually gain more weight with Test then you can with Tren if you don't know what your doing with the Tren (thats why its an advanced drug)

[ryguy199980]

I've ran 2000 mg of test. I've also ran virtually zero test but ran anabolics like like deca and masteron. I've also stacked test at moderate doses with other compounds dozens and dozens of times. I have to say that "test is NOT the best" when it comes to building muscle and doing so efficiently with the least amount of negative sides.

250 test with 200 tren is much more potent then just 500 test.. the test Tren combo won't even require an AI, the 500 test may.
unless your new and haven't ran cycles before. then 300mg of test would work just fine. the drug combinations really only matter once your a little more advanced.

for whats its worth, Tren is 5x more anabolic and androgenic then test. but don't be deceived, you can actually gain more weight with Test then you can with Tren if you don't know what your doing with the Tren (thats why its an advanced drug)

I'm looking to put on serious weight so I could either do 1000mg or test a week or 250mg test and tren a week as it is much more expensive....and what I'd a A.I?

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[GearHeaded]

I wouldn't bother with Tren if your after "serious weight" gain.. some guys run Tren and end up losing weight. bulking with Tren requires a few little tricks. if you want to keep it simple then drop the Tren idea. Test, NPP, Dbol or just a Test and Andarol cycle will put some weight on you.

if you don't know what an AI is , I'm assuming you've never cycled before? Aromatase Inhibitor, keeps estrogen in check for wet compounds like Test. They are used or not used depending on the context, drugs used, goals, etc..

[ryguy199980]

I wouldn't bother with Tren if your after "serious weight" gain.. some guys run Tren and end up losing weight. bulking with Tren requires a few little tricks. if you want to keep it simple then drop the Tren idea. Test, NPP, Dbol or just a Test and Andarol cycle will put some weight on you.

if you don't know what an AI is , I'm assuming you've never cycled before? Aromatase Inhibitor, keeps estrogen in check for wet compounds like Test. They are used or not used depending on the context, drugs used, goals, etc..

I've done cycles but I've never used A.I so your saying just run high test? For more weight than test and tren?

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[GearHeaded]

no I'm not saying that.. I'm saying for weight gain Test stacked with other compounds is better then test stacked with Tren, that is if you plan on stacking.
test + tren for an experienced user is usually always better then test alone (even the estrogen conversion you get from the test will help you grow along with the tren).. tren finds its place way more often in cutting stacks then weight gain stacks, though it can be used for either if you know what your doing

[ryguy199980]

no I'm not saying that.. I'm saying for weight gain Test stacked with other compounds is better then test stacked with Tren, that is if you plan on stacking.
test + tren for an experienced user is usually always better then test alone (even the estrogen conversion you get from the test will help you grow along with the tren).. tren finds its place way more often in cutting stacks then weight gain stacks, though it can be used for either if you know what your doing

Well I've never done a crazy cycle before.....I've always tried to maintain that "is he natty look" but I domt care anymore so what do you recommend?

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[marcus300]

Would something like 500mg of test be more effective at building muscle than 250mg test 200mg of tren?
How powerful is test compared to tren?
Love to have a convo with someone experienced!

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Tell us more about yourself - how many cycles have you ran? what age are you? how long have you been training? what cycles have you done and what kind of results did you get? height and weight?

[ryguy199980]

Tell us more about yourself - how many cycles have you ran? what age are you? how long have you been training? what cycles have you done and what kind of results did you get? height and weight?

I'm 19 and I've put on 30lbs of muscle I'm cutting for a show on satarday. Nothing crazy like 250mg of test a week 25mg of dianabol a day....I've been on 3 cycles ive been training for 6 years

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[hollowedzeus]

I'm 19 and I've put on 30lbs of muscle I'm cutting for a show on satarday. Nothing crazy like 250mg of test a week 25mg of dianabol a day....I've been on 3 cycles ive been training for 6 years

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I would drop the idea of using gear. Train hard and eat lots...
Youve possibly done some damage already.

Definetly drop the idea of tren mate.

Where you go from here is your call.

https://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-...%2A%2A%2A.html

https://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-...-steroids.html

Have a read

[BenTren]

I'm 19 and I've put on 30lbs of muscle I'm cutting for a show on satarday. Nothing crazy like 250mg of test a week 25mg of dianabol a day....I've been on 3 cycles ive been training for 6 years

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3 cycles already at 19! damn i thought i was bad haha. Did you run a PCT during cycles? Anyway how did you find those cycles? good results?

if you're cutting and at a decent bf% already i heard Anavar and Clen would be a good choice.. i've no experience with the both but i've heard some pretty good lean muscle gains etc. Good luck.

[ryguy199980]

3 cycles already at 19! damn i thought i was bad haha. Did you run a PCT during cycles? Anyway how did you find those cycles? good results?

if you're cutting and at a decent bf% already i heard Anavar and Clen would be a good choice.. i've no experience with the both but i've heard some pretty good lean muscle gains etc. Good luck.

Yeah I ran pct....I looked up good cycles but I've never wanted to be a seriously big person until now. Lol

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[BenTren]

Yeah I ran pct....I looked up good cycles but I've never wanted to be a seriously big person until now. Lol

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haha I hear you there. Right now i'm running Test-E with a Dbol kickstarter and i'm seeing some nice gains from this Dbol alone, can't wait till the Test starts kicking in too.

[GearHeaded]

depends on what drugs you've used in the past and what you responded to.. keeping it simple, most guys respond very well and put on lots of size with a classic Test/Dbol or Test/Anadrol stack.

[GearHeaded]

your always better off stacking Imo. I've ran 2000mg a week of test, I've also ran only 100mg a week of test stacked with several other compounds to have synergistic effect. I did better on the low dose test

[ryguy199980]

your always better off stacking Imo. I've ran 2000mg a week of test, I've also ran only 100mg a week of test stacked with several other compounds to have synergistic effect. I did better on the low dose test

But do you think lower dbol for longer time or higher for shorter amount of time?


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[GearHeaded]

But do you think lower dbol for longer time or higher for shorter amount of time?

I recommend the taper method with Dbol.. you start with a higher dose and then taper the dosage down over time and run it for about 10 weeks.
week 1-4 - 50mg
week 5-7 - 30mg
week 8-10 - 20mg

[ryguy199980]

I recommend the taper method with Dbol.. you start with a higher dose and then taper the dosage down over time and run it for about 10 weeks.
week 1-4 - 50mg
week 5-7 - 30mg
week 8-10 - 20mg

Is it always better to climb dosages so you have more in your system if your body gets used to 50mg 30 isn't gonna do anything correct?


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[GearHeaded]

Is it always better to climb dosages so you have more in your system if your body gets used to 50mg 30 isn't gonna do anything correct?

no. especially for newer users. your not going to de-sensitize right away. and when you get to a point that you do begin to de-sensitze after running gear for several years its always best to rotate compounds in and out then it is to ramp up dosages.

30mg of Dbol is still 30mg of Dbol, it will still do its thing. some guys will only run Dbol for like 4 or 5 weeks is all (cause of hepatoxicity). but they end up pissing all their gains away when they come off. the reason I suggest the taper method is so that you can stay on the drug for a much longer period of time and help your body acclimate to the new gains and the water weight.. the more and longer your able to acclimate to the weight the better off you'll be able to hold onto it once you come off