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[MuscleScience]

I love the hex/trap bar!

Yeah man, ready to see how you respond to it as I think I will be trying it soon for the HGH properties. May go lose dose 10-12.5mg for a year but need to look at some more studies/people’s experiences. If you have any studies, hook a brother up!

There a lot of good stuff out there. I’ll see if I can find the thread where a bunch of users posted before and after IGF results. I’m going to get my IGF checked tomorrow actually.

[MuscleScience]

Rest day yesterday,

I was dragging bad yesterday and my legs were sore sore sore. Today is a push day and I am really going go destroy my quads, they will either grow or die.

[MuscleScience]

Ok, I stole this MK-677 stuff from Another board. But it’s pretty good info.

What we are finding is that some people using MK677 and having bloodwork done are testing around the equivalent of 3iu of GH, and some lucky individuals are testing as high as the equivalent of 4iu of GH.

I had baseline IGF-1 bloodwork done (227), tested 4iu of pharm grade GH after 3 days (380), and am currently on a 4 week run of 15mg MK677 by itself, when I will have bloodwork done in several weeks to do a comparison as well, when I will report back with bloodwork.

I am looking into alternating a month of GH with a month of MK677 in order to save funds.

After a week, I am a fan of MK-677, I weigh my own caps (as the taste is terrible) with a 1mg scale, and prefer taking it 1st thing in the morning, function fine on it, have a sense of wellbeing, muscle-fullness + pumps, increased recovery from workouts + anti-aging benefits as I am 48. It does feel like several IU of GH to me. Personally, I sleep very well at night by taking it in the morning. Yes, there is some appetite increase, but the fat percentage has actually gone down by 1% allready on the MK677 + year round keto diet except for 25g carbs 1 hour pre-workout (always from crunchy peanut butter, glycemic index of 14) and postworkout on workout days. I consume 180g of protein a day, with 50g of that from met-rx daily and fats are kept high. Non-workout days carbs are kept to less than 20g. The peanut butter helps to give me energy for the workout. Also on TRT of 200mg test c a week as well, with 1/8th to 1/4mg armidex twice a week with each 100mg shot. I continue to loose fat while fat free mass is up. Also happy to report that blood pressure is normal. I own two books on HGH: "Grown young with HGH" and "Growth Hormone Secretagogues in Clinical Practice", both books have a discussion about the results and benefits of MK677, and how it was discovered.

Best article I have read on MK677 with charts and graphs from most of the studies:

The Beauty of Modern Science: Ibutamoren (MK-677):
The Beauty of Modern Science: Ibutamoren (MK-677) - Mind And Muscle

Here are the results of the research I did so far:
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self:
227 igf1---->380 igf1 (4iu chinese pharm grade) = 153 point jump

Peptides:
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Alpha6164's (medical doctor's best friend):
167 igf1---->272 igf1 (100mcg grf(1-29) + 100mcg ghrp2 x 3 times a day) = 105 point increase

MK677:
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Fitraver:
224 igf1---->359 igf1 (12.5mg mk677) = increase of 135 points*
MrSaturatedfat:
232 igf1---->312 igf1 (25mg mk677) = increase of 80 points**
thebigone:
150 igf1---->242 igf1 (20mg mk677) = increase of 92 points***
machine5150:
141 igf1-----217 igf1 (20mg mk677) = increase of 76 points****
Sayitaintsoap:
unknown igf1---->376 igf1 (25mg mk677) = unknown increase*****

*See Fitraver post "bloods on 12.5mg mk677"
**See Mrsaturatedfat post "37 days on mk677"
***See thebigone post "Humatrope,MK677 and other GH labs for you guys"
****See machine5150 post "MK677 Before and After Blood Work w/ IGF Levels Raised 53.9%"
*****See sayitaintsoap post "THT's MK-677 review and blood work"

**Notice the similar point jumps between peptides and mk677, either one seems to reach a max of around 100 igf-1 points.

[MuscleScience]

references:

ref 1: additional information on mk677 only:
A few favorite quotes on Mk-677 at lower dosage:

Cybersage (from forum):
Sandpig: (9/6/2017)
Elvia1023: (19,000 posts)
RamboStallone (9/6/2017: 7,000 posts):
ref 2: additional information on peptides only:

Alpha6164 (medical doctor and bodybuilder, from the long 60 page thread at prof muscle, he performed nearly a dozen bloodtests and charged them to his medical practice):
Alpha6164 said



Alpha6164 in conclusion said:

Part II

[RaginCajun]

thanks man!

just wondering if this will help me heal, which I am assuming it will.

definitely peaked my interest for sure!

[MuscleScience]

thanks man!

just wondering if this will help me heal, which I am assuming it will.

definitely peaked my interest for sure!

That’s also my thought too, I take benedrly almost every night to sleep. It’s known to suppress HGH release.

[OdinsOtherSon]

Thanks for a passing that info along MS!


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[RaginCajun]

That’s also my thought too, I take benedrly almost every night to sleep. It’s known to suppress HGH release.

this is what i take but i think i need a little break from it

https://www.amazon.com/Schiff-Melato...g.+365+tablets

there was a thread around here by Angel about Benadryl and Alzheimer's somewhere, or it was mentioned somewhere. not sure how much research has been done on it but i know it was mentioned here by Angel.

[MuscleScience]

Missed my workout yesterday,

Not sure what’s going on but I feel good then I feel like crap. I think i might have allergies or something. Anyway, I feel great today and am going to go crush one here soon...

[OdinsOtherSon]

Missed my workout yesterday,

Not sure what’s going on but I feel good then I feel like crap. I think i might have allergies or something. Anyway, I feel great today and am going to go crush one here soon...

Missed mine yesterday too, but it was because I was getting a massage. Lol.

Chest:

4 sets flat bench

4 sets incline bench

4 sets decline bench

Super set:
3 sets hammer strength incline press
3 sets low cable flies


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[hammerheart]

Interested to hear how you do on Mk-677, what dosage will you be using and are you going to pull bloods?

[MuscleScience]

Interested to hear how you do on Mk-677, what dosage will you be using and are you going to pull bloods?

Yep, I just did a before IGF-1 blood work yesterday. I think I’m going to start at 12.5mg. It really upsets my stomach after taking it. My workout this morning I was crazy vascular and had a really awesome pump. Don’t know if that’s from the MK677 but I noticed some arms veins sticking out more than normal in my biceps.

[guitarzan]

I got some mk677 I got free from a order, I need to try it

[MuscleScience]

I got some mk677 I got free from a order, I need to try it

Send it to me!

[MuscleScience]

Badass workout today,

Chest, Shoulders and Plyos.

Basically I went heavy as I could as long as I could as fast as I could on every exercise. Idk if the MK677 kicks in this fast but I had the urge to lift heavy and stop pussy footing around. I feel a ton of aggression like the old school me is back. Not aggression in the sense of violence. But to get back and beat the piss out of weights and back to not being such a pussy anymore. Idk, maybe it’s just time to get back to what use to work.

[Obs]

Badass workout today,

Chest, Shoulders and Plyos.

Basically I went heavy as I could as long as I could as fast as I could on every exercise. Idk if the MK677 kicks in this fast but I had the urge to lift heavy and stop pussy footing around. I feel a ton of aggression like the old school me is back. Not aggression in the sense of violence. But to get back and beat the piss out of weights and back to not being such a pussy anymore. Idk, maybe it’s just time to get back to what use to work.

Get that shit!
Turn on the angry teenager music and find your inner demons. Tear the cage open! Oh yeah baby! SLAP MY ASS! PINCH IT!

GET SOME!

[MuscleScience]

Get that shit!
Turn on the angry teenager music and find your inner demons. Tear the cage open! Oh yeah baby! SLAP MY ASS! PINCH IT!

GET SOME!

You’re a weird guy Ace
Dan Marino

[MuscleScience]

I had some really fuckex up dreams last night. I slept all the way through too. Apparently my buddies and I decided to rob a bank and have a Call of Duty style shoot out with the cops. Weird weird dream. Lol

Edit: from the MK-677 i presume.

[OdinsOtherSon]

I had some really fuckex up dreams last night. I slept all the way through too. Apparently my buddies and I decided to rob a bank and have a Call of Duty style shoot out with the cops. Weird weird dream. Lol

Hahahaha!!! That’s awesome! Bbrrrahahha!!


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[MuscleScience]

Hahahaha!!! That’s awesome! Bbrrrahahha!!


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Can’t wait for my workout today after church. Going to crush some back and dead’s

[MuscleScience]

Back and biceps today,

Still have to be careful with some back movements because of the flares up disc in my neck. But otherwise a good workout.

Tomorrow I will start my detailed log with weekly progress pics so you guys can critique me and hold me accountable when I’m fucking off.

I felt really weird to start off today, almost kinda shaky and week. But I powered through and by the time my workout was done, i felt really good.

[hammerheart]

Back and biceps today,

Still have to be careful with some back movements because of the flares up disc in my neck. But otherwise a good workout.

Tomorrow I will start my detailed log with weekly progress pics so you guys can critique me and hold me accountable when I’m fucking off.

I felt really weird to start off today, almost kinda shaky and week. But I powered through and by the time my workout was done, i felt really good.

I woke up with pain between cervical ribs today.

Will you be actually joining the next comp in May?

[MuscleScience]

I woke up with pain between cervical ribs today.

Will you be actually joining the next comp in May?

Sure, why not!

[tarmyg]

I had some really fuckex up dreams last night. I slept all the way through too. Apparently my buddies and I decided to rob a bank and have a Call of Duty style shoot out with the cops. Weird weird dream. Lol

Edit: from the MK-677 i presume.

I see you talking about this compound all over the place now. I assume you are seeing some profound effects?

[hammerheart]

Stopped at a pharmacy today and they were giving heel ultrasound kind of bone densitometry for $10, never did a dexa either so decided to give it a go, just out of curiosity.

Turns out I'm a tad below average (Ts -0.22; Zs -0.11) which is rather meh and disappointing, considering all the juice lol.

An old lady that was there for a box of lorazepam kept glancing and smiling at my direction. Jeez...

[cousinmuscles]

I had some really fuckex up dreams last night. I slept all the way through too. Apparently my buddies and I decided to rob a bank and have a Call of Duty style shoot out with the cops. Weird weird dream. Lol

Edit: from the MK-677 i presume.

Sounds like a completely normal day for me.

Stopped at a pharmacy today and they were giving heel ultrasound kind of bone densitometry for $10, never did a dexa either so decided to give it a go, just out of curiosity.

Turns out I'm a tad below average (Ts -0.22; Zs -0.11) which is rather meh and disappointing, considering all the juice lol.

An old lady that was there for a box of lorazepam kept glancing and smiling at my direction. Jeez...

You've got a thing* for old ladies lol

[RaginCajun]

Stopped at a pharmacy today and they were giving heel ultrasound kind of bone densitometry for $10, never did a dexa either so decided to give it a go, just out of curiosity.

Turns out I'm a tad below average (Ts -0.22; Zs -0.11) which is rather meh and disappointing, considering all the juice lol.

An old lady that was there for a box of lorazepam kept glancing and smiling at my direction. Jeez...

Should have jumped on that old lady, she would have given you a whirl!

[Obs]

You’re a weird guy Ace
Dan Marino

Hey ace got any more of that gum?

Thats none of your damn business and I will thank you to stay out of my personal affairs.

[Mooseman33]

all righty then................................

[MuscleScience]

Got my IGF-1 blood work back today.

TESTS RESULT FLAG UNITS REFERENCE INTERVAL LAB
IGF-1 INSULIN-LIKE GROWTH FACTOR I
188 NG/ML reference range 83-233ng/ml

[MuscleScience]

I’m a little surprised it was that high to be honest. I didn’t workout for 2 days prior. That wasn’t intentional but in 3-4 weeks when I go to retest I will probably do something similar to make sure it’s a fair-ish comparison.

[OdinsOtherSon]

I’m a little surprised it was that high to be honest. I didn’t workout for 2 days prior. That wasn’t intentional but in 3-4 weeks when I go to retest I will probably do something similar to make sure it’s a fair-ish comparison.

That is a highish baseline; however, still within range. Can’t wait to see the results after you’ve been on for a month or so.


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[MuscleScience]

That is a highish baseline; however, still within range. Can’t wait to see the results after you’ve been on for a month or so.

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Man, i can’t begin to explain how excited I am with this. I’ve seen multiple blood work threads where people are hitting numbers increases like they are on 3-4 IU’s of GH

[OdinsOtherSon]

Man, i can’t begin to explain how excited I am with this. I’ve seen multiple blood work threads where people are hitting numbers increases like they are on 3-4 IU’s of GH

Man that would be some cost effective GH for sure!! Are you still feeling that urge to move weight like you experienced earlier?


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[MuscleScience]

Man that would be some cost effective GH for sure!! Are you still feeling that urge to move weight like you experienced earlier?


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Oh yeah, pumped all the time to lift.!

[hammerheart]

Got my IGF-1 blood work back today.

TESTS RESULT FLAG UNITS REFERENCE INTERVAL LAB
IGF-1 INSULIN-LIKE GROWTH FACTOR I
188 NG/ML reference range 83-233ng/ml

That was my result last year but I'm ten yrs younger than you. In 2015 it was 280.

[MuscleScience]

That was my result last year but I'm ten yrs younger than you. In 2015 it was 280.

Lucky!

[RaginCajun]

Nice!

What’s your dose again?

[OdinsOtherSon]

Nice!

What’s your dose again?

And are you taking it along side melatonin as was suggested previously?


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[MuscleScience]

Nice!

What’s your dose again?

12.5mg

And are you taking it along side melatonin as was suggested previously?


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No, probably should anyone.