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    Quote Originally Posted by gymrat702 View Post
    Hey all,

    Sorry for this common question.

    I just finished the perfect pct protocol (clomid, nolva, gw501, cardarine, aromasin) after a 16 week test, deca, eq and drol cycle. I stopped the eq and deca two weeks prior to the end of the cycle and waited 2 weeks until starting pct.

    I got a blood test done with one day remaining yesterday and the results show my test is 373, Lh is 0.2, fsh is 0.5. Estrogen is low.

    Is this a sign of a failed PCT? Should I start up again or just give it time? I felt like shit for the first few weeks but feel okay now physically and mentally. My other results are messed up which is expected (lipid panel is not great, liver values are still elevated).


    Background about me:

    I'm 31 and a competitive Powerlifter. I'm 6'3, 232 right now. Elite deadlifter. I've been using steroids since fall 2014. I have not always been responsible and blasted and cruised for approximately one year. Never used hcg on any cycle I've done.

    I accepted the risks of hrt when I started. My only fear is that I won't be able to have children.
    Whats GW501?

    Aromasin you are not supposed to take during PCT, but that probably doesnt matter cause you were taking deca.

    Deca, nandrolone decanoate, is a very slow compound and unless you wait 5-6 weeks before PCT it is a wasted PCT. I have seen it numerous times in my bloodwork and in gym buddies bloods. Some pp are very sensitive to deca and it is a very supressing compound, a small amount can be enough to not let your HPTA recover.

    In many labs deca will show up as testosterone, have seen bloodwork after 6 and even 8 weeks after last shot of deca with elevated test and LH and FSH alsmot zero.

    Personally think that deca should only be taken by ppl in TRT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.BB View Post
    Whats GW501?

    Aromasin you are not supposed to take during PCT, but that probably doesnt matter cause you were taking deca.

    Deca, nandrolone decanoate, is a very slow compound and unless you wait 5-6 weeks before PCT it is a wasted PCT. I have seen it numerous times in my bloodwork and in gym buddies bloods. Some pp are very sensitive to deca and it is a very supressing compound, a small amount can be enough to not let your HPTA recover.

    In many labs deca will show up as testosterone, have seen bloodwork after 6 and even 8 weeks after last shot of deca with elevated test and LH and FSH alsmot zero.

    Personally think that deca should only be taken by ppl in TRT.
    Gw501516 is cardarin. I've read you are supposed to use an ai during pct to control estrogen rebound.

    So you think I should wait or do pct again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gymrat702 View Post
    Gw501516 is cardarin. I've read you are supposed to use an ai during pct to control estrogen rebound.

    So you think I should wait or do pct again?
    On what does estrogen rebounds? PCT time theres not a lot of testosterone to aromatize...

    Your best shot is a Power PCT: 1000ui HCG EOD for 10 days, 3 days later the clomid 50mg + nolva 20mg combo for 1 month.

    But how much time has passed since last shot of deca?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.BB View Post
    On what does estrogen rebounds? PCT time theres not a lot of testosterone to aromatize...

    Your best shot is a Power PCT: 1000ui HCG EOD for 10 days, 3 days later the clomid 50mg + nolva 20mg combo for 1 month.

    But how much time has passed since last shot of deca?
    I haven't taken deca in 8 weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.BB View Post
    Your best shot is a Power PCT: 1000ui HCG EOD for 10 days, 3 days later the clomid 50mg + nolva 20mg combo for 1 month.

    This ^^^
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