Best practices in Starting TRT

[Chrisp83TRT]

Agree that young and older guys alike should consider the long-term implications of using AAS for non-medical reasons. I don't pass judgement, but like any other form of drug abuse, it has it's hidden costs.


Regarding needle size, I suggest guys use whatever they are comfortable with. However, my experience is that if you confine TRT to levels that maintain normal physiologic ranges at all times, that the volume of T is such that there is no need to go larger than a 25G needle and you can easily get by with a 28G 1/2 inch. There are several studies that show no real differences in effectiveness or absorption profiles between subcutaneous or IM. It's all about what comfortable and sustainable for you. Each has to make their own decision, and sometimes as in your case, availability of the syringes/needles drives the decision. Though in the USA, you can obtain one-piece insulin syringes on-line t a very reasonable cost virtually everywhere.


I don't have the bumps/abscesses problems some discuss, though I do sometimes bruise.

I get slight pip with my TRT injection from the 28g 1/2” . And I agree is not pricy at all. I get a box of 100 for 11 bucks, 10 each box if I buy In bulk.

[David LoPan]

I get slight pip with my TRT injection from the 28g 1/2” . And I agree is not pricy at all. I get a box of 100 for 11 bucks, 10 each box if I buy In bulk.

Holy crap, that must take 10 minutes to inject. I use 22 g 1 1/2

[HoldMyBeer]

Holy crap, that must take 10 minutes to inject. I use 22 g 1 1/2

I was watching that video on how to inject. Do you guys actually replace the needle between the draw and injection?

[Chrisp83TRT]

I was watching that video on how to inject. Do you guys actually replace the needle between the draw and injection?

I used to, now I use needles that are attached to the syringe. People tend to draw with a lower gauge for faster drawing and switch to a higher gauge for injection, also the needle dulls after plunging over and over which can cause more pain but with a higher gauge, you barely notice a difference.

[Chrisp83TRT]

Holy crap, that must take 10 minutes to inject. I use 22 g 1 1/2

Dude , I’d cry with that gauge and length haha .
Surprisingly it only takes 15 seconds 20 at most if I go slow. It really isn’t bad at all.

[mxgregg]

I use the exact same setup in the quads and it works great. After 5 weeks of 400mg per week my blood pressure really shot up to 170/90. I have taken 2 weeks off and my blood pressure is back in range and I am thinking to going to this TRT type of dose.

Dude , I’d cry with that gauge and length haha .
Surprisingly it only takes 15 seconds 20 at most if I go slow. It really isn’t bad at all.

[Chrisp83TRT]

I use the exact same setup in the quads and it works great. After 5 weeks of 400mg per week my blood pressure really shot up to 170/90. I have taken 2 weeks off and my blood pressure is back in range and I am thinking to going to this TRT type of dose.

Glad to hear your Bp is back to healthy range man.

[mxgregg]

thanks, But I had to stop my cycle and I was just seeing some gains and strength improvements. Do you think going to a TRT type cycle at 100 mg per week will work ok to try and get more gains but still keep my bp low?

Glad to hear your Bp is back to healthy range man.

[Chrisp83TRT]

thanks, But I had to stop my cycle and I was just seeing some gains and strength improvements. Do you think going to a TRT type cycle at 100 mg per week will work ok to try and get more gains but still keep my bp low?

I look at it like this if your levels are good ( especially if you are working with more free test ) and your diet and training is on point , I see no problems getting gains on TRT doses. If I ever cycle , it’s only going to be with the basic test runs or low TRT doses and mast.
I always find it to be what we eat and how good our training is.

[Youthful55guy]

Holy crap, that must take 10 minutes to inject. I use 22 g 1 1/2

It's volume dependent. If you inject at least twice per week (I prefer E3D), the volume for most guys to keep them within physiological ranges is between 0.20 mL and 0.4 mL. I personally inject 0.25 mL E3D. I've timed it many times and it's less than a minute to draw up that volume with a 28G needle and about 5 seconds to inject. I can sacrifice about 65 seconds E3D out of my life for the comfort of a 28G 1/2 inch needle. If you go up to a 25G needle, you can cut that time in about half.

[ryobi1]

Holy crap, that must take 10 minutes to inject. I use 22 g 1 1/2

I use a 29g x 1/2" needle twice weekly .4ml, 40mgs... it takes a bit to draw in that needle, I warm up the T cyp and it flows easier,
it takes about 2 mins to draw, about 20 seconds to inject slow and steady