Best alternatives to winstrol? (Same hardened effect but saves the joints)

[charger69]

I did take Anavar for 7 weeks & then finished the cycle off with 5 weeks of Winstrol (Test E was the base for the entire 12 week cycle). Anavar leaned me out considerably (with no sides) while winstrol gave me that dry look (screwing with my joints in the process).

From what I have read so far, Trenbolone has some VERY serious side-effects, doesn't it? Since I am just a novice (2 cycles under my belt), not too keen on severely harsh compounds like Tren, Anadrol etc.

Do not take tren yet then.
I do know people that take deca for the joints while on Winnie.
I think for your purposes, mast is the go to. You will love it and its sides are mild. You really see results below 10% bf however you can use it above.


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[Last_Ride]

Do not take tren yet then.
I do know people that take deca for the joints while on Winnie.
I think for your purposes, mast is the go to. You will love it and its sides are mild. You really see results below 10% bf however you can use it above.


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I can't thank u enough for taking the taking the time to clear up all my queries...

One last query and I will be out of ur hair �� Do I have to worry about the dreaded Deca-dick at such a low dosage of deca, i.e. 300mg/week (just to mobilize the joints during winnie cycle)??

[charger69]

I can't thank u enough for taking the taking the time to clear up all my queries...

One last query and I will be out of ur hair �� Do I have to worry about the dreaded Deca-dick at such a low dosage of deca, i.e. 300mg/week (just to mobilize the joints during winnie cycle)??

There is no such thing as deca dick. What they are referring to is high prolactin. 19 Nors are famoius for increasing prolactin levels. Everyuxcone is different so I cannot say if you will be effected or not at 300. My guess is no. I have run high levels and no problems . Caber or prami can be used to lower levels.



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[ScotchGuard02]

I can't thank u enough for taking the taking the time to clear up all my queries...

One last query and I will be out of ur hair �� Do I have to worry about the dreaded Deca-dick at such a low dosage of deca, i.e. 300mg/week (just to mobilize the joints during winnie cycle)??

300mg/wk is not low dose. I run 100mg/wk for joints. If you want to shred the there is no substitute for cardio. Test Prop 300mg/wk +200mg/wk of Mast + 200mg/wk of Primo + carb cycle diet + cardio. I can get down to 6% body fat.

[AlphaMindz]

I can't thank u enough for taking the taking the time to clear up all my queries...

One last query and I will be out of ur hair �� Do I have to worry about the dreaded Deca-dick at such a low dosage of deca, i.e. 300mg/week (just to mobilize the joints during winnie cycle)??

Very safe to say that you will get "deca dick" which is just a simple way of saying "your prolactin will increase and your dick won't work" because at Scotch mentioned 300mg isn't exactly a low dose of Nandrolone. But I guess that's relative.

However, Charger has a point in saying everyone's different and there's a chance you'll be fine on 300mg, but I wouldn't bet on it. Always better to be prepared and have ancillaries on hand and not need them then to assume you won't need them and find yourself in a compromising situation.

[Last_Ride]

Very safe to say that you will get "deca dick" which is just a simple way of saying "your prolactin will increase and your dick won't work" because at Scotch mentioned 300mg isn't exactly a low dose of Nandrolone. But I guess that's relative.

However, Charger has a point in saying everyone's different and there's a chance you'll be fine on 300mg, but I wouldn't bet on it. Always better to be prepared and have ancillaries on hand and not need them then to assume you won't need them and find yourself in a compromising situation.

That's a scary thought. Will 0.25mg of Cabergoline EOD help prevent Deca-dick by keeping prolactin levels in check?

[AlphaMindz]

That's a scary thought. Will 0.25mg of Cabergoline EOD help prevent Deca-dick by keeping prolactin levels in check?

Well I would start by first controlling your estrogen which will indirectly help keep prolactin down. However, it may not lower it enough and that's why you'll want the caber on hand in case you need it. At 300mgs there's a decent chance you won't need. You'll def wanna get on proviron as well cause it will help blunt estrogen and prolcatin. As far as dosages of caber go I'm not the best guy to ask cause I've never used it. But to control estrogen I would use Arimidex at .25-.5mg eod.