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    Apart from the fact that you skipped reading these two threads:

    https://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-...-steroids.html
    https://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-...%2A%2A%2A.html

    I assume you want to become another example in the second link above

    I would not be slightly concerned with your diet, I would be extremely concerned if you think that is enough food. So you have gotten things backwards here, you haven't learned to eat properly, which reveals you haven't been doing this successfully but are trying to skip through all the hard stuff and expect miracles from a drug.

    It won't work and you risk robbing yourself from some of the most important years of your life, in terms of development. Do you want to be in your early 20s, having found that sweet girlfriend that you feel you want to be with forever, but can't get an erection? Or even worse not have the sex drive? Or even worse not have the energy or lust to make things happen and just feel crap all day, glaring as the days pass...

    You write due diligence but you haven't done much or else you would know about these risks and wouldn't pretend they're a walk in the park.

    You would have found your answer regarding pre cycle blood work in the stickied thread "My First Successful Cycle":
    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Lastly, the most important part is your blood work. Steroids will wreak havoc on your blood levels. So you need to have panels ordered before, during and after your cycle. This will identify many things so that you can succeed and maintain a good state of health.

    Blood work you need (at minimum):

    1. Testosterone, Total
    2. Testosterone, Free
    3. Sensitive E2 Assay (Not basic estradiol, that's for women)
    4. CBC (Compete blood count)
    5. CMP (Comprehensive metabolic panel)
    6. Lipid Profile (post cycle is fine)
    7. LH and FSH (pre-cycle and post PCT)

    These panels need to be done pre-cycle to ensure that your internals are ready for this ride. Mid-cycle to verify that your estrogen blocker dose is working, your blood isn't too thick, your liver is still safe and that your gear is legitimate and not fake or underdosed. Post cycle so that you can verify that you've completed your cycle safely and no issues need attention.

    Here is your blood work timing:

    Pre-Cycle blood work: 2 weeks prior to cycle.
    Mid-Cycle blood work: 7 to 8 weeks into a 12 week cycle. Or 5 weeks into an 8 weeker.
    Post-Cycle blood work: 6 weeks after PCT.

    Thickening of the blood is very dangerous and steroids will thicken your blood. The increased RBC production will result in higher hematocrit levels. This number comes back with your CBC panel. It is best to keep this close to 50%. Once it reaches 55% or higher, you're at risk of a blood clot, extreme fatigue, high blood pressure, headaches and a host of other concerns. To resolve this issue, you'll need to donate blood. This will lower your hematocrit levels. Be very cautious, because if your level reach 55%, most donation centers will reject/refuse a donation from you. Then you'll have to get a prescription from a doctor for a therapeutic phlebotomy. This is why mid-cycle blood work is important.
    Go ahead, pretend you very well know the risks, you are smarter than us, you can judge risks much better than us, you know your body, and can predict the future, yes yes you will reply you knew and are willing to take the risks good then carry on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cousinmuscles View Post
    Apart from the fact that you skipped reading these two threads:

    https://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-...-steroids.html
    https://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-...%2A%2A%2A.html

    I assume you want to become another example in the second link above

    I would not be slightly concerned with your diet, I would be extremely concerned if you think that is enough food. So you have gotten things backwards here, you haven't learned to eat properly, which reveals you haven't been doing this successfully but are trying to skip through all the hard stuff and expect miracles from a drug.

    It won't work and you risk robbing yourself from some of the most important years of your life, in terms of development. Do you want to be in your early 20s, having found that sweet girlfriend that you feel you want to be with forever, but can't get an erection? Or even worse not have the sex drive? Or even worse not have the energy or lust to make things happen and just feel crap all day, glaring as the days pass...

    You write due diligence but you haven't done much or else you would know about these risks and wouldn't pretend they're a walk in the park.

    You would have found your answer regarding pre cycle blood work in the stickied thread "My First Successful Cycle":


    Go ahead, pretend you very well know the risks, you are smarter than us, you can judge risks much better than us, you know your body, and can predict the future, yes yes you will reply you knew and are willing to take the risks good then carry on.
    Yes actually I did read the first link. As someone commented in that post, it wasn't as convincing to the young as you might think. HOWEVER, thank you for the link to the post that is NOT PINNED, if I had seen it I would have clicked. Despite you not knowing that my goal at the moment is to cut and I'm at the very end of it, I will dismiss any disparaging comments you made. I know how to gauge caloric intake for a bulk with a surplus that will prevent excess fat accumulation and also accommodate a desired rate of muscle gains. I am not pretending they're a walk in the park, if I thought they were a walk in the park I would be injecting arbitrary doses of Test-C and Tren, and not posting to find the SPECIFIC information that I am seeking out. THIS IS MY DUE DILIGENCE. Don't pretend you don't know someone that jumps the gun. However I must thank you for being the only one to provide me with the information I was seeking. I found another article online and I wanted to cross-reference validity with the community and internet sources to make sure.

    Despite finding the information, due to the fact that you were able to at least provide me with some anecdotal incidences where people of this community have made mistakes I would have potentially made if I would have proceeded with this, I WILL NOT be taking AAS. You guys win this one, and in a way so do I! Thank you.

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