Insulin Use For Bodybuilding - question/answer thread

[JKW]

Very nice work by GH and everyone who replied. I’ve read the posts many times and I would like to try insulin. I am on my 3rd week on HGH 1.5iu moving to 2iu 5 days a week. I am 58 and use to be a competitor in the 80-90’s. I am on more of a HRT lifestyle then bodybuilding. I want to maximize taking GH since it is so expensive by utilizing the benefits of insulin obviously in a smaller dose than bodybuilding. My question is am I thinking clearly on the HRT side or is insulin more for the bodybuilding side? I would love some help either through this thread or PM if someone will guide me. Thanks!!

[Windex]

Very nice work by GH and everyone who replied. I’ve read the posts many times and I would like to try insulin. I am on my 3rd week on HGH 1.5iu moving to 2iu 5 days a week. I am 58 and use to be a competitor in the 80-90’s. I am on more of a HRT lifestyle then bodybuilding. I want to maximize taking GH since it is so expensive by utilizing the benefits of insulin obviously in a smaller dose than bodybuilding. My question is am I thinking clearly on the HRT side or is insulin more for the bodybuilding side? I would love some help either through this thread or PM if someone will guide me. Thanks!!

You don't need insulin to maximize the HgH - it's a double standard. Insulin without HGh is poor but HGH without insulin is perfectly acceptable. Also take all the posts from Gearheaded and toss them out the window. He was banned from the forum because of the unsafe and reckless information he gave to people.

A low dose of slin is going to give little results for a lot of risk. Outside of treating diabetics the only purpose to insulin is going to be for top end hyper competitive bodybuilding.

[GearHeaded]

You don't need insulin to maximize the HgH - it's a double standard. Insulin without HGh is poor but HGH without insulin is perfectly acceptable. Also take all the posts from Gearheaded and toss them out the window. He was banned from the forum because of the unsafe and reckless information he gave to people.

A low dose of slin is going to give little results for a lot of risk. Outside of treating diabetics the only purpose to insulin is going to be for top end hyper competitive bodybuilding.

Wow thank you sir! I didn't know he had been banned. I wonder why this thread is still up then if it is bad advice? Almost made me want to try insulin . Glad you cleared that up thanks!

none of the above is true.. I was not banned and I surely was not banned for giving out bad advice (tons of respectable members here PM'd me daily for advice). my account was hacked by someone that had a vendetta against me .
thats in the past .

I'm happy to continue helping people with proper and safe insulin use for bodybuilding in this thread .

[Obs]

none of the above is true.. I was not banned and I surely was not banned for giving out bad advice (tons of respectable members here PM'd me daily for advice). my account was hacked by someone that had a vendetta against me .
thats in the past .

I'm happy to continue helping people with proper and safe insulin use for bodybuilding in this thread .

We are moving forward and no one will be bothering GH.
Things went on out of public eye that have been fixed, corrected, and we are all glad GH has returned after what happened. GH has some terrific advice and he has a very outside the box approach that will work better for some of us.

We welcome new odeas and approaches.
No one wants to be on a one directional dry assed board. We want it wet and we want it to go both ways like guitarzan, cape, and couchlockd

[Capebuffalo]

We are moving forward and no one will be bothering GH.
Things went on out of public eye that have been fixed, corrected, and we are all glad GH has returned after what happened. GH has some terrific advice and he has a very outside the box approach that will work better for some of us.

We welcome new odeas and approaches.
No one wants to be on a one directional dry assed board. We want it wet and we want it to go both ways like guitarzan, cape, and couchlockd

This.

[GearHeaded]

You don't need insulin to maximize the HgH.

insulin can mitigate and limit a lot of the negative side effects of HGH use and prevent the long term damage that HGH can cause. in fact, without insulin some people would not even be able to safely utilize HGH (I'm speaking bodybuilding dosages here)

[guitarzan]

I am self diagnosed with reactive hypoglycemia, my body makes too much insulin when I eat, causing my blood sugar to drop. Its easily controlled with diet, especially by cutting out refined carbs. My sugar has dropped so low, I've measured it at 42, that I've come close to blackening out. Though my have it under control, now that diet is on tract, I'm assuming slin would be a bad idea for me

[GearHeaded]

I am self diagnosed with reactive hypoglycemia, my body makes too much insulin when I eat, causing my blood sugar to drop. Its easily controlled with diet, especially by cutting out refined carbs. My sugar has dropped so low, I've measured it at 42, that I've come close to blackening out. Though my have it under control, now that diet is on tract, I'm assuming slin would be a bad idea for me

interesting. maybe try running a GHRP or GH secretagogue like MK-677 (or perhaps both). This may balance out your hypoglycemia. The pulsing of GH will cause a release of sugar stored from cells thus keeping your blood sugar elevated (this is one of many ways GH works as a growth factor hormone)
fyi - my normal blood sugar is 80 , if I'm on MK-677 my new normal becomes 100. (yes there is some insulin resistance involved with this).

basically the GH release 'may' counter act your over production of insulin to a degree, or a least provide a higher level of blood sugar to keep your from going hypo so easily.

as for taking exogenous insulin . for you, timing would be critical . if you take in exogenous insulin, and that insulin gets into the blood stream and then your carbs are consumed and dealt with, then your body will not produce a huge spike of its own insulin because of the exogenous insulin. however, if your timing is off you could have a spike of natty insulin on top of your exogenous insulin you took and thus have more insulin then is needed for the amount of carbs consumed .. you'd have to have liquid carbs on hand all the time.


have you ever used intra workout nutrition, like a carb drink during your workout? what happens when you do ? do you go hypo ?

[guitarzan]

interesting. maybe try running a GHRP or GH secretagogue like MK-677 (or perhaps both). This may balance out your hypoglycemia. The pulsing of GH will cause a release of sugar stored from cells thus keeping your blood sugar elevated (this is one of many ways GH works as a growth factor hormone)
fyi - my normal blood sugar is 80 , if I'm on MK-677 my new normal becomes 100. (yes there is some insulin resistance involved with this).

basically the GH release 'may' counter act your over production of insulin to a degree, or a least provide a higher level of blood sugar to keep your from going hypo so easily.

as for taking exogenous insulin . for you, timing would be critical . if you take in exogenous insulin, and that insulin gets into the blood stream and then your carbs are consumed and dealt with, then your body will not produce a huge spike of its own insulin because of the exogenous insulin. however, if your timing is off you could have a spike of natty insulin on top of your exogenous insulin you took and thus have more insulin then is needed for the amount of carbs consumed .. you'd have to have liquid carbs on hand all the time.


have you ever used intra workout nutrition, like a carb drink during your workout? what happens when you do ? do you go hypo ?

Hmmm, that's interesting. Haven't tried a carb drink, other than Gatorade. I usually take in 40-60 grams of carbs before my morning workout, usually from foods like brown rice. I did notice one time that while on t3 I dont have issues, even if I'm eating bad

[charger69]

Hmmm, that's interesting. Haven't tried a carb drink, other than Gatorade. I usually take in 40-60 grams of carbs before my morning workout, usually from foods like brown rice. I did notice one time that while on t3 I dont have issues, even if I'm eating bad

Tarzan- brown rice has a low GI (glycemic index), white rice has a high GI. It is better you to use white rice with slin.
I use glycofuse however there are many types of drinks.


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[Obs]

insulin can mitigate and limit a lot of the negative side effects of HGH use and prevent the long term damage that HGH can cause. in fact, without insulin some people would not even be able to safely utilize HGH (I'm speaking bodybuilding dosages here)

Indeed glad to see you again sir.

[GearHeaded]

Very nice work by GH and everyone who replied. I’ve read the posts many times and I would like to try insulin. I am on my 3rd week on HGH 1.5iu moving to 2iu 5 days a week. I am 58 and use to be a competitor in the 80-90’s. I am on more of a HRT lifestyle then bodybuilding. I want to maximize taking GH since it is so expensive by utilizing the benefits of insulin obviously in a smaller dose than bodybuilding. My question is am I thinking clearly on the HRT side or is insulin more for the bodybuilding side? I would love some help either through this thread or PM if someone will guide me. Thanks!!

JKW ,, just to touch on your post . are you aware that insulin use is 'popular' in anti aging clinics ? YES , insulin is an anti aging drug (if used correctly) . so you being curious about using it , with your HRT and your HGH use at the age of 56 is PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE , and yes can be optimized with all three together providing many benefits (and not just for bodybuilding) .
so I say yes, adding an insulin protocol is something you can consider