For putting on mass is it better to......

[Couchlockd]

Said that here for years. I've had great results from tren runs (along side TRT) as low as 100 mgs per week.

Do any of the terrible Trenbolone side effects show their face at those dosages?

[AlphaMindz]

Do any of the terrible Trenbolone side effects show their face at those dosages?

Nope. I had a tinge of trensomnia for the first week or so but even that was minimal. I'd wake up once around 4am and be like "yup it's the tren" and get up, take a leak, down a shake and pass back out lol. It may of even helped me cause I got an extra meal in lol. But nothing like I usually get with the murderous aggression and super rapey thoughts lmao none of that. I do get the body temp increase a bit so I'm sweating a bit more but that's it man. And the big one for me since it's a 19nor deriv is sexual function and at this dose everythings working perfectly with no issues.

I highly recommend running test high (while keeping e2 around 21ng/dl) and running tren low.

[jimk1692]

Nope. I had a tinge of trensomnia for the first week or so but even that was minimal. I'd wake up once around 4am and be like "yup it's the tren" and get up, take a leak, down a shake and pass back out lol. It may of even helped me cause I got an extra meal in lol. But nothing like I usually get with the murderous aggression and super rapey thoughts lmao none of that. I do get the body temp increase a bit so I'm sweating a bit more but that's it man. And the big one for me since it's a 19nor deriv is sexual function and at this dose everythings working perfectly with no issues.

I highly recommend running test high (while keeping e2 around 21ng/dl) and running tren low.

So if I were to run tren at 200mg a week what would you recommend test to be at? This is very interesting, I like the idea.

[AlphaMindz]

So if I were to run tren at 200mg a week what would you recommend test to be at? This is very interesting, I like the idea.

Yeah that's what I'm running it at and it's def the "sweet spot" for me as I'm getting all the benefits with zero side effects. Th first 10 days I had some very mild trensomnia to the likes of me waking up once during the night and falling right back asleep lol.

This is how I'm going to run my cycles from now on. Test moderately high ~1 gram, with a moderately dosed anabolic (eq or deca around 500mg/week) , and then maybe a polisher like winny or mast, or tren at 50 mg eod).

I just noticed your question lol. Keep test at 750mg or a gram depending on cycle history.. Would be smart to start test at 500mg and increase to 750 then 1 gram depending how long you plan on staying on and whether or not you're on trt..

[Wyatt 88]

Yeah that's what I'm running it at and it's def the "sweet spot" for me as I'm getting all the benefits with zero side effects. Th first 10 days I had some very mild trensomnia to the likes of me waking up once during the night and falling right back asleep lol.

This is how I'm going to run my cycles from now on. Test moderately high ~1 gram, with a moderately dosed anabolic (eq or deca around 500mg/week) , and then maybe a polisher like winny or mast, or tren at 50 mg eod).

I just noticed your question lol. Keep test at 750mg or a gram depending on cycle history.. Would be smart to start test at 500mg and increase to 750 then 1 gram depending how long you plan on staying on and whether or not you're on trt..

Why would it be smart to work your way up with the test? And would you do it in thirds?

Assuming this is a longer cycle of at least 16 weeks, then going back on TRT.

Thanks

[guitarzan]

I'm one of the fortunate ones that can recomp (very slowly), and can bulk without gear, but i can ride by McDonald's and put on fat...lol
Kinda like what obs said about diet needs can be different for everyone, so can the ability to put on mass or lose fat

[kelkel]

Do any of the terrible Trenbolone side effects show their face at those dosages?

Apologies Couch I just saw this. Only a little bit of night sweats but that passed rather quickly fortunately.

[guitarzan]

Apologies Couch I just saw this. Only a little bit of night sweats but that passed rather quickly fortunately.

I still have heartburn issues at low dose, but that's about it. I've found keeping carbs low after lunch helps keep from getting night sweats