Insulin Use For Bodybuilding - question/answer thread

[GearHeaded]

Glad to see you back GH!

What is your typical “cycle” on slin? I was taking it while cycling. I have heard some take it 4 weeks on/ 4 weeks off, some as a bridge between cycles, and some essentially all the time.

I will refresh your memory- I’m 51 and actively compete In BB. I try to keep up with the others competing however I also try to keep healthy due to my age. I know it sounds like a contradiction. LOL

thanks Charger,, glad to see your still going after it and competing

couple of points to address your question
- main reason to be on an AAS cycle when starting an insulin protocol .. most steroids greatly increase our bodies ability to positively partition nutrients, drive more glycogen, water, amino acids, nutrients, etc.. into the muscle cells. This happens at a much greater rate then what could happen naturally . BUT even so, we still need the "KEY" which opens the cells and drives all these nutrients into the muscle. that Key is insulin.
So what better time to use insulin then when your body is on AAS and has the ability to drive way more nutrients into the cells then could happen normally.

- Insulin use while not on AAS. Plenty of other ways to use insulin besides just getting huge. it can be used apart from AAS use during a dieting phase as an 'anti catabolic' , it can be used prior to cardio to drive down blood sugar and put the body in more lipolytic dependent state, it can be used to mitigate negative side effects of HGH use , heck it can be used just to control blood sugar and as an 'anti aging' drug .

- as for 'cycling' insulin. thats really going to depend on the person and their goals and what they are using the insulin for.. lets say a guy is using insulin pre and post workout but only on his leg training days to help bring up his lagging legs and help boost recovery of that body part. being he is only using slin 1-2 x per week then he can be on it indefinitely , no need to cycle off.. if your using slin for a bulking cycle and thus using it daily, thats fine, as a bulking cycle only lasts so long and when your bulk is over you come off the slin. you could do the 4 weeks on 4 weeks off .. lots of options.

keep in mind that slin does NOT permanately shut down your own natty production of insulin (its not like test). In fact exogenous insulin use can help the body regenerate the beta cells of the pancreas and make production of natty insulin more efficient . lets say your fasted blood sugars are running high and your pancreas is not keeping up with the demands of insulin needed , well if you take exogenous insulin and give your pancreas a rest so that those beta cells can regenerate/rest then when you come off the insulin your pancreas is working just fine and keeping up just fine because you gave it a break it needed by using exogenous insulin.


- as for what typical "cycle" to run while using insulin . thats all really dependent on what your use of the insulin is going to be for along with your goal for the cycle . if your off season putting on size, then your typical test, deca, dbol, with a pre and post workout insulin protocol will yield plenty of size gains.. if you prepping for a show and your 5 or so weeks out, depleted and flat, then adding in some insulin with your mast, primo, var, at different stages to help 'fill out' on your high carb days or also to help stay anti catabolic while dieting and help with recovery is also an option. or you can use micro doses of insulin for morning fasted cardio along with HGH, caffeine, Var, Yohimbe, to help shed body fat.

umm, and of course the most controversial. Insulin as a 'safety net' and 'synergistic' to be used with DNP.. IF your crazy enough to use DNP, then you should most definitely be using insulin along with it

lots of options for slin use besides just the typical 'get huge' protocols that insulin is mainly known for

[charger69]

thanks Charger,, glad to see your still going after it and competing

couple of points to address your question
- main reason to be on an AAS cycle when starting an insulin protocol .. most steroids greatly increase our bodies ability to positively partition nutrients, drive more glycogen, water, amino acids, nutrients, etc.. into the muscle cells. This happens at a much greater rate then what could happen naturally . BUT even so, we still need the "KEY" which opens the cells and drives all these nutrients into the muscle. that Key is insulin.
So what better time to use insulin then when your body is on AAS and has the ability to drive way more nutrients into the cells then could happen normally.

- Insulin use while not on AAS. Plenty of other ways to use insulin besides just getting huge. it can be used apart from AAS use during a dieting phase as an 'anti catabolic' , it can be used prior to cardio to drive down blood sugar and put the body in more lipolytic dependent state, it can be used to mitigate negative side effects of HGH use , heck it can be used just to control blood sugar and as an 'anti aging' drug .

- as for 'cycling' insulin. thats really going to depend on the person and their goals and what they are using the insulin for.. lets say a guy is using insulin pre and post workout but only on his leg training days to help bring up his lagging legs and help boost recovery of that body part. being he is only using slin 1-2 x per week then he can be on it indefinitely , no need to cycle off.. if your using slin for a bulking cycle and thus using it daily, thats fine, as a bulking cycle only lasts so long and when your bulk is over you come off the slin. you could do the 4 weeks on 4 weeks off .. lots of options.

keep in mind that slin does NOT permanately shut down your own natty production of insulin (its not like test). In fact exogenous insulin use can help the body regenerate the beta cells of the pancreas and make production of natty insulin more efficient . lets say your fasted blood sugars are running high and your pancreas is not keeping up with the demands of insulin needed , well if you take exogenous insulin and give your pancreas a rest so that those beta cells can regenerate/rest then when you come off the insulin your pancreas is working just fine and keeping up just fine because you gave it a break it needed by using exogenous insulin.


- as for what typical "cycle" to run while using insulin . thats all really dependent on what your use of the insulin is going to be for along with your goal for the cycle . if your off season putting on size, then your typical test, deca, dbol, with a pre and post workout insulin protocol will yield plenty of size gains.. if you prepping for a show and your 5 or so weeks out, depleted and flat, then adding in some insulin with your mast, primo, var, at different stages to help 'fill out' on your high carb days or also to help stay anti catabolic while dieting and help with recovery is also an option. or you can use micro doses of insulin for morning fasted cardio along with HGH, caffeine, Var, Yohimbe, to help shed body fat.

umm, and of course the most controversial. Insulin as a 'safety net' and 'synergistic' to be used with DNP.. IF your crazy enough to use DNP, then you should most definitely be using insulin along with it

lots of options for slin use besides just the typical 'get huge' protocols that insulin is mainly known for

As always, a very detailed response that even I can understand! LOL
I am going back to the way I was using it.