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    So according to what I read, E2 should be around 90-120 pg/dl on cycle.

    During my first cycle, I had mid-cycle labs done and my E2 was about that high so I was told in a forum to increase my AI dosage to bring it into the normal range so I did. Bad advice?

    I was taking 500 mg/wk test cyp and my total test was about 2400 at 6 weeks. My AI dosage was .5mg EOD and I increased it to 1mg EOD to get into the normal range.

    I'm gonna go back to the .5mg/EOD AI on this cycle and see how it goes. I'll also take caber .5mg E3D. I'll be running 600mg/wk test and 400mg/wk deca and 40-50 mg/day dbol and tapering it.

    At what E2 level should a guy start worrying about the possibility of gyno or other side effects?
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    Try no ai

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pmft View Post
    So according to what I read, E2 should be around 90-120 pg/dl on cycle.

    During my first cycle, I had mid-cycle labs done and my E2 was about that high so I was told in a forum to increase my AI dosage to bring it into the normal range so I did. Bad advice?
    not bad advice if you were having bad negative sides from estrogen or your cycle was set up as a cut and you were trying to get lean and dry.
    yes bad advice if you were doing just fine and your goal of the cycle was to grow and put on mass.


    I was taking 500 mg/wk test cyp and my total test was about 2400 at 6 weeks. My AI dosage was .5mg EOD and I increased it to 1mg EOD to get into the normal range.
    1mg EOD is way way too much unless you were in contest prep a few weeks out.. AI's can have more negative health consequences then the steroids your taking, so be careful


    At what E2 level should a guy start worrying about the possibility of gyno or other side effects?
    you should run a low dose of a SERM like Nolva during your cycle and you don't have to worry about gyno. you likely won't need an AI either.
    Nolva will block estrogen at the receptors you want them to be blocked, like breast and fat tissue, yet let your blood levels elevate so that estrogen receptors you don't want blocked will have plenty of E, like the liver so it can produce more HDL cholesterol and IGF1, and like muscle tissue. running a high dose of an AI will hinder and mitigate all the positive benefits of elevated estrogen while on cycle (ie, it will hinder your gains).
    a SERM is a 'selective' estrogen receptor modulator. its 'selective' in nature and won't block all estrogen functions. an AI blocks/lowers estrogen all together from the start and thus limits estrogens anabolic and health benefits

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    not bad advice if you were having bad negative sides from estrogen or your cycle was set up as a cut and you were trying to get lean and dry.
    yes bad advice if you were doing just fine and your goal of the cycle was to grow and put on mass.




    1mg EOD is way way too much unless you were in contest prep a few weeks out.. AI's can have more negative health consequences then the steroids your taking, so be careful




    you should run a low dose of a SERM like Nolva during your cycle and you don't have to worry about gyno. you likely won't need an AI either.
    Nolva will block estrogen at the receptors you want them to be blocked, like breast and fat tissue, yet let your blood levels elevate so that estrogen receptors you don't want blocked will have plenty of E, like the liver so it can produce more HDL cholesterol and IGF1, and like muscle tissue. running a high dose of an AI will hinder and mitigate all the positive benefits of elevated estrogen while on cycle (ie, it will hinder your gains).
    a SERM is a 'selective' estrogen receptor modulator. its 'selective' in nature and won't block all estrogen functions. an AI blocks/lowers estrogen all together from the start and thus limits estrogens anabolic and health benefits
    I was bulking on my first cycle at
    500mg/wk test. I wasn't having any negative sides from estrogen. My BP was getting a little high but I have Lisnopril for that now. I did have to get up several times a night to use the bathroom. I was hitting my 1 gallon water goal each day.

    Ok, so let me get this all straight.

    Wk 1-12. Cycle support
    Wk 1-12. caber .5mg E3D
    Wk 1-12. 600mg/wk test cyp.
    Wk 1-12. 400mg/wk deca
    Wk 1-4. 50mg/day dbol
    Wk 5-6. 40mg/day dbol
    Wk 7-8. 30mg/day dbol
    Wk 9-10. 20mg/day dbol
    Wk 1-?. Nolva 20mg/day??????
    Wk 1-?. Anastrozole??????
    No PCT needed

    I did some reading on Nolva and 20mg seems about average. Not sure if that's correct and you advise not to run Anastrozole or should I keep that at the normal dosage of .5mg E3D?

    Also, I will normally slowly taper down my Anastrozole after week 12 as my test levels lower. In this case I would taper the Nolva?

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