First Cycle ever, haven't worked out for years

[pikminman]

I accepted the majority of member's advice, and thanked them.

I don't want people to agree with me, because I don't have an opinion on the matter - I'm asking if I will make gains or not, why is this so complicated?

[Obs]

I accepted the majority of member's advice, and thanked them.

I don't want people to agree with me, because I don't have an opinion on the matter - I'm asking if I will make gains or not, why is this so complicated?

You will make mild gains.
Hell, maybe the influx of hormones will help give you the motivation you need to hit the gym.
If you do, go slow.
I have put myself in a depressed state after losing gains when I was in my early 20's. It was brussel sprout bad.

Don't know your story, but AAS is no game unless you have the drive to make it so. Regardless it will always be serious.

[pikminman]

Hmm, that's what I was hoping. Yeah, if I see gains like I've never seen before, that will for sure motivate me. I'm looking for anything to make life exciting again.

[Obs]

Tendons and joints dont grow like muscle on AAS.

Its easy to go too fast and break yourself. Then you go back to skinny with flatlined test and unable to lift.

I am an addictive type personality. My focus goes to whatever I set my sights on. If someone or something takes it away all of the sudden.... It literally is like a heartbreak. Actually its worse.
Caution is mandatory. Saying you dont care wont work. Obviously you care or you wouldnt be seeking gains.

[pikminman]

True....I suppose I have a bit a care left in me.

About the tendons etc., would taking it slow help that? Say I lift 100% normally, but gain the ability to go to 150% during the cycle - if I limit myself to say 120% would that be reasonable?

[Obs]

True....I suppose I have a bit a care left in me.

About the tendons etc., would taking it slow help that? Say I lift 100% normally, but gain the ability to go to 150% during the cycle - if I limit myself to say 120% would that be reasonable?

What do you do for work?
I went straight to lifting my first cycle having not. I have incredibly strong tendons in my genetics though and I worked like a dog physically at the time.

If you are mostly sedentary, take it slow. Never deviate from proper form, keep elbows tucked when benching, pay attention to proper spine alignment when squatting or deadlifting, and use lighter weight and higer reps.

Jumping into a low rep heavy weight HIT program or similar will undo you.

[pikminman]

What do you do for work?
I went straight to lifting my first cycle having not. I have incredibly strong tendons in my genetics though and I worked like a dog physically at the time.

If you are mostly sedentary, take it slow. Never deviate from proper form, keep elbows tucked when benching, pay attention to proper spine alignment when squatting or deadlifting, and use lighter weight and higer reps.

Jumping into a low rep heavy weight HIT program or similar will undo you.

Just dropped out of 3rd year mechanical engineering.

I'm also very strong genetically, but do have a bit of belly fat, but also a lot of muscle, but am not very active most of the time. I started working out last week though.

Sound advice though on rep range and form.

[Windex]

True....I suppose I have a bit a care left in me.

About the tendons etc., would taking it slow help that? Say I lift 100% normally, but gain the ability to go to 150% during the cycle - if I limit myself to say 120% would that be reasonable?

Doing a cycle in your position will give you an injury, you are starting from 0 with no ceiling established. You can't stay your max bench is X lbs so you will do 120% of X instead of 150% of X. Whatever your previous best lifts were is not applicable today. If for example you benched 405 lbs for reps before, you aren't going to get back to 405 lbs in 12 weeks safely. So you won't even get back to your previous best, let alone trying to 120% or whatever irrelevant arbitrary % you want to use.

Even factoring the training/injury out of the equation if your diet sucks all your gains will be water weight and you will look like a puffer fish and worse off from where you started. Switching your diet overnight just because you decide to cycle isn't really going to be benefical either. The human body is like a factory. Can a factory manufacturing bicycles turn into a factory manufacturing airplanes overnight? No.

[pikminman]

Doing a cycle in your position will give you an injury, you are starting from 0 with no ceiling established. You can't stay your max bench is X lbs so you will do 120% of X instead of 150% of X. Whatever your previous best lifts were is not applicable today. If for example you benched 405 lbs for reps before, you aren't going to get back to 405 lbs in 12 weeks safely. So you won't even get back to your previous best, let alone trying to 120% or whatever irrelevant arbitrary % you want to use.

Even factoring the training/injury out of the equation if your diet sucks all your gains will be water weight and you will look like a puffer fish and worse off from where you started. Switching your diet overnight just because you decide to cycle isn't really going to be benefical either. The human body is like a factory. Can a factory manufacturing bicycles turn into a factory manufacturing airplanes overnight? No.

No, I'm saying say I can lift 100% today. As in, in shit form.

I'm very impatient, like how long will I have to wait then if I don't want to look like a puffer fish? I do have a good bit of muscle.

[pikminman]

I'll post before and after pictures anyway in 12 weeks, or 12 weeks from when I started. Might be funny.

[Windex]

No, I'm saying say I can lift 100% today. As in, in shit form.

I'm very impatient, like how long will I have to wait then if I don't want to look like a puffer fish? I do have a good bit of muscle.

It's not complicated - 3 members already gave you the correct information - train for 6 months with proper nutrition and get to where you were previously before quitting training, then CYCLE. If you can't even do that, then find something else to do with your time that gives immediate gratification.

[pikminman]

It's not complicated - 3 members already gave you the correct information - train for 6 months with proper nutrition and get to where you were previously before quitting training, then CYCLE. If you can't even do that, then find something else to do with your time that gives immediate gratification.

I know, I know - 6 months. FUUUUUCK that though. I'll try a week and see what happens. If I end up a puffer fish with double C's then I won't feel as bad jumping in front of the train. Plus I'll be able to fondle myself at least xD God that's sad....... Ah well, you know what they say, "'roid-up and hope for the best!".

(I know it seems like I'm trolling but I'm actually not, sadly)

[Obs]

Not trying to run you off anymore but you need to scoop deep.
I killed the old me. He was a quitter.
He probably would have said the exact same things you are.

Decide you are going to win and dont stop. Its a one time decision much like a marriage or suicide. You run this shit, no one else. You can be anything, but you gotta take it. Quitting is not an option.

Light a fire under your feet. Search your soul, do whatever it takes. That phrase by my username is the only thing that kept me from putting a hydroshock in my skull. I am a million miles away from there now.

[pikminman]

I saw the phrase earlier, it's very good.

But you seem to have wanted to get gains really bad - like I'd love them, but reallllly all I want is to be the most attractive I can be i.e. attract more women - buttt I can't talk to anyone - male or female - as I'm socially fucked. See my problem?

Do you think gains etc. and getting fit could potentially lead to being more comfortable socially?

[Obs]

I saw the phrase earlier, it's very good.

But you seem to have wanted to get gains really bad - like I'd love them, but reallllly all I want is to be the most attractive I can be i.e. attract more women - buttt I can't talk to anyone - male or female - as I'm socially fucked. See my problem?

Do you think gains etc. and getting fit could potentially lead to being more comfortable socially?

Lot of guys will shit on me for saying this but it gives you a huge confidence boost. If you dont want to gocto the gym buy a rack and a bench for home. Fb has that trader thing with lots of cheap weights and equipment.

I have been totally socially inept and isolated in the past. It sucks.

I would advise bloodwork. Low test in younger individuals is a common problem. Getting that in check via medical advice could be a saving grace.

There are a lot of men on depression meds that only needed trt.

[pikminman]

Lot of guys will shit on me for saying this but it gives you a huge confidence boost. If you dont want to gocto the gym buy a rack and a bench for home. Fb has that trader thing with lots of cheap weights and equipment.

I have been totally socially inept and isolated in the past. It sucks.

I would advise bloodwork. Low test in younger individuals is a common problem. Getting that in check via medical advice could be a saving grace.

There are a lot of men on depression meds that only needed trt.

God, maybe you're right... Never thought it could be due to low test.

Did getting in shape help you socially?