Gearheaded’s crazy EXPERIMENTS log

[Obs]

yeah I only just started about 6 days ago and already feeling it. probably cause things are kicking in fast by combining the Tren E with Tren Ace and Tren suspension and injecting daily.

the 'being on edge' feeling, and restless sleep just started up last night . but keep in mind guys this is ONLY a 3 week long blast of Tren

I takes a couple months but my mentality finds normality afterward. Only side that seems to stay permanent is absolute dire sexual needs.

[GearHeaded]

I takes a couple months but my mentality finds normality afterward. Only side that seems to stay permanent is absolute dire sexual needs.

yeah I know what you mean.. your mind gets used to feeling the way you feel and it becomes a new norm sort of speak. its when this shit first gets going and slaps you in the face your like "oh man F this shit , I want to sleep and feel normal" . after about week 6 your acclimated.

but to be honest, I've never personally ran Tren longer then 8 weeks . so if your talking running Tren for months on end and getting used to it at that point , your beyond where I've gone (but as you know I"m a big fan of compound rotation, so I don't run many compounds for long term anyways . EQ and Deca off the top of my head are compounds I've ran for months on end, but most everything else I'm usually rotating things in and out)

[Obs]

yeah I know what you mean.. your mind gets used to feeling the way you feel and it becomes a new norm sort of speak. its when this shit first gets going and slaps you in the face your like "oh man F this shit , I want to sleep and feel normal" . after about week 6 your acclimated.

but to be honest, I've never personally ran Tren longer then 8 weeks . so if your talking running Tren for months on end and getting used to it at that point , your beyond where I've gone (but as you know I"m a big fan of compound rotation, so I don't run many compounds for long term anyways . EQ and Deca off the top of my head are compounds I've ran for months on end, but most everything else I'm usually rotating things in and out)

I ran it this year for most of the year.
No great benefit. Rotation is necessary for sure. I just had to find out myself.
I continually got leaner and more mass but other means would have been more effective.

My penis didnt fly off though and I didn't turn into a lunatic as many would figure.

I have noticed though that my jaw and overall skull shape has changed. Whether related I have no idea.
Also have a much more pronounced butt chin.
Possibly from gritting my teeth all year.

[MuscleScience]

yeah I know what you mean.. your mind gets used to feeling the way you feel and it becomes a new norm sort of speak. its when this shit first gets going and slaps you in the face your like "oh man F this shit , I want to sleep and feel normal" . after about week 6 your acclimated.

but to be honest, I've never personally ran Tren longer then 8 weeks . so if your talking running Tren for months on end and getting used to it at that point , your beyond where I've gone (but as you know I"m a big fan of compound rotation, so I don't run many compounds for long term anyways . EQ and Deca off the top of my head are compounds I've ran for months on end, but most everything else I'm usually rotating things in and out)

That include long esters for short periods?

[GearHeaded]

[/B]

That include long esters for short periods?

absolutely.
eg. instead of running EQ for say 14 weeks at 500mg per week (which is like 3 bottles of EQ). Try running all 3 bottles in a short 6 week long time span instead... its not like the EQ is going anywhere. your body is still going to utilize all 3 bottles infected in 6 weeks instead of 14. then when your done with that 6 weeks move on to 6 weeks of deca, then 6 weeks of Tren. etc.. in the amount of time you were planning on running your little EQ cycle , 16 weeks, you'll of accomplished several full blown cycles instead with multiple compounds.
by rotating the compounds and moving on to new compounds, your able to give your receptors more and more 'information' instead of working with the same old information for a longer slower period.
and again, your body is still going to utilize the whole amount of drug that you use. so if you inject 7000mg of EQ over 6 short weeks its still going to use all 7000mg .. just like if you injected 7000mg over 16 weeks. the benefit to the shorter duration is you get to utilize all the eq you were planning on using , PLUS move on to more compounds in a lesser time frame


edit -
long ester drugs like Deca work great for long cycles like 12-16 weeks.. but long ester drugs like Deca also work great for short term cycles as well if they are dosed properly.
the 'Internet forum' folk lore dea that long ester drugs have to be ran a minimum of 12+ weeks to be effective is total BS

[charger69]

absolutely.
eg. instead of running EQ for say 14 weeks at 500mg per week (which is like 3 bottles of EQ). Try running all 3 bottles in a short 6 week long time span instead... its not like the EQ is going anywhere. your body is still going to utilize all 3 bottles infected in 6 weeks instead of 14. then when your done with that 6 weeks move on to 6 weeks of deca, then 6 weeks of Tren. etc.. in the amount of time you were planning on running your little EQ cycle , 16 weeks, you'll of accomplished several full blown cycles instead with multiple compounds.
by rotating the compounds and moving on to new compounds, your able to give your receptors more and more 'information' instead of working with the same old information for a longer slower period.
and again, your body is still going to utilize the whole amount of drug that you use. so if you inject 7000mg of EQ over 6 short weeks its still going to use all 7000mg .. just like if you injected 7000mg over 16 weeks. the benefit to the shorter duration is you get to utilize all the eq you were planning on using , PLUS move on to more compounds in a lesser time frame

Did you notice any additional sides from taking so much?
I frontloaded deca for a week and took caber for the first time. I don’t think that I needed it however I did not want bitch tits. Obs was on tren and probably wouldn’t have been able to resist. LOL


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[GearHeaded]

Did you notice any additional sides from taking so much?
I frontloaded deca for a week and took caber for the first time. I don’t think that I needed it however I did not want bitch tits. Obs was on tren and probably wouldn’t have been able to resist. LOL

well my observation , the guys that get the most side effects are your newbs running their first couple basic little cycles.

my point is, 'negative side effects' are all relative. we all get them to one degree or another, no matter if your a newb running only 500mg of test per week, or an advanced user running 4 grams per week. the side effects are all generally all the same.
so you can't necessarily say that 4000mg of gear a week causes more side effects then 500mg of gear per week , its person dependent and we all deal with very similar sides.

the side effects that I got with running deca at high dosage for 6 weeks were very similar to the side effects I've got running deca for years, the main difference was that they only lasted 6 weeks instead of the usual 14

of course the negative aspects that may appear on blood work is a more detailed topic. I'm just speaking to the general side effects FELT while running gear (we all get them to one degree on another no matter the dosage)

edit - I mean heck if your prolactin sensitive to begin with and you have to run Caber anyways at only 500mg per week of Deca, then shit might as well bump it up to 1000mg a week (your already getting all the negative sides at the 500mg anyways). why not run double the dosage for half the time so you only have to deal with the negative sides for half the time

[GearHeaded]

edit -
long ester drugs like Deca work great for long cycles like 12-16 weeks.. but long ester drugs like Deca also work great for short term cycles as well if they are dosed properly.
the 'Internet forum' folk lore dea that long ester drugs have to be ran a minimum of 12+ weeks to be effective is total BS

6000 mg of deca is 6000mg of deca . period. so you can divide that over 12 weeks if you like (run 500mg per week) OR you can divide that over 6 weeks if you like (run 1000mg per week).. and if you go with the 6 week option, when your done with that 6000mg of deca you can then move on to 6000mg of EQ and run that for 6 weeks as well. and in the end you've more then doubled your dosage and doubled your compounds in the same 12 week long period that the single run of deca at 500mg would have been.

[charger69]

I takes a couple months but my mentality finds normality afterward. Only side that seems to stay permanent is absolute dire sexual needs.

Normality and Obs are antonyms!!


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[Obs]

Normality and Obs are antonyms!!


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No they are cinnamons!