Losing hair fast on trt - considering finasteride

[mac34]

I switched from 40mg E3D to 20mg EOD, I didn't get finasteride yet but it seems like my hair loss stopped. It must have been the spike of T levels that caused the biggest damage.

Though honestly the former dose of 40mg felt better. But I have plenty of things to do, like adding HCG, and getting E2 in check. I will keep experimenting,

By the way, if I shoot some 300iu of HCG 3x per week, or whatever is recommended. Can it have significant impact on T levels?

[Youthful55guy]

I switched from 40mg E3D to 20mg EOD, I didn't get finasteride yet but it seems like my hair loss stopped. It must have been the spike of T levels that caused the biggest damage.

Though honestly the former dose of 40mg felt better. But I have plenty of things to do, like adding HCG, and getting E2 in check. I will keep experimenting,

By the way, if I shoot some 300iu of HCG 3x per week, or whatever is recommended. Can it have significant impact on T levels?

I think we've discussed this in another thread. I would not be adjusting T dose on the basis of a subjective assessment of hair loss. The rate of hair loss cannot be easily quantified. You are much better off basing on T dose on getting Free T levels into the desired range and simultaneously monitoring DHT (the driver of hair loss). Once Free T is optimized, layer in DHT control with finasteride, I would start with 0.5 mg topically in a minoxidil base 2X per day (1.0 mg total per day). Monitor DHT again after about 4 weeks and then layer in low dose oral finasteride if DHT levels persist above normal levels. Be careful how low you drive DHT because it's an important hormone for libido in men.

900 IU of HCG will probably increase T levels somewhere between 100 to 300 ng/dL. The effect varies depending on individual response. This is why you should monitor Free T levels again after layering HCG. You may need to adjust your T dose to compensate.

[mac34]

I think we've discussed this in another thread. I would not be adjusting T dose on the basis of a subjective assessment of hair loss. The rate of hair loss cannot be easily quantified. You are much better off basing on T dose on getting Free T levels into the desired range and simultaneously monitoring DHT (the driver of hair loss). Once Free T is optimized, layer in DHT control with finasteride, I would start with 0.5 mg topically in a minoxidil base 2X per day (1.0 mg total per day). Monitor DHT again after about 4 weeks and then layer in low dose oral finasteride if DHT levels persist above normal levels. Be careful how low you drive DHT because it's an important hormone for libido in men.

900 IU of HCG will probably increase T levels somewhere between 100 to 300 ng/dL. The effect varies depending on individual response. This is why you should monitor Free T levels again after layering HCG. You may need to adjust your T dose to compensate.

Thanks. That seems like the right way to do it certainly. For now I'm happy that making the injections more frequent and doses a little smaller reduced the problem.

The only problem is that 1mg propecia tablets will be the best I can get. I don't think there's any topical finasteride available in my country.


In the other thread you mentioned that it is possible to make a liquid with the crashed finasteride method for topical use. But you also mentioned that you can dissolve a tablet in vodka for precise oral dosing.

Could I just use the "daily eye dropper method for oral dosing" to make a finasteride liquid and then mix it with minoxidil? Or is the crushed method necessary?

[Youthful55guy]

Could I just use the "daily eye dropper method for oral dosing" to make a finasteride liquid and then mix it with minoxidil? Or is the crushed method necessary?

Yes. I do both. I dose 1 mg per day topically (in 2 divided doses AM and PM) and 0.5 mg orally without the minoxidil (in 2 divided doses AM and PM). HOWEVER, I am using a larger dose of T than you are because I have very high SHBG. I suggest you simply skip the oral dosing at your level of T.

[mac34]

Yes. I do both. I dose 1 mg per day topically (in 2 divided doses AM and PM) and 0.5 mg orally without the minoxidil (in 2 divided doses AM and PM). HOWEVER, I am using a larger dose of T than you are because I have very high SHBG. I suggest you simply skip the oral dosing at your level of T.

What I meant is if I can use the liquid oral solution to apply on hair? Since I don't imagine I could get the liquid or powdered finasteride.

[Youthful55guy]

What I meant is if I can use the liquid oral solution to apply on hair? Since I don't imagine I could get the liquid or powdered finasteride.

You can't just use pure alcohol as the solvent, because it evaporates too fast. You'll will end up with flakes of finasteride on your scalp that will never be absorbed.

Here's a protocol for making your own that I found on line. It's not how I do it, but it looks reasonable.

Use 5 mg finasteride pills (Proscar). You will need to pulverize 12 pills and then put the powder into a bottle of 60 ml minoxidil solution. Shake it very hard for 10 minutes. Let the bottle stand still for overnight and pour the clear solution to another bottle for use. The reason why it is recommended to dissolve the powder into a minoxidil solution is that it has right solvent that ensures the good absorption of the topical finasteride.

I've not tried this method but I think it might work. Liquid minoxidil (Rogain or some generic) should be easy to find.