HGH and slin

[Livinlean]

I agree that insulin does not build muscle, but it does shuttle nutrients like amino acids, creatine, etc. into the muscle (and only the muscle when growth hormone is present), and there is great synergy between insulin and HGH. For instance, hgh will break down your body's fat for fuel and practically make it impossible for your body to store anything consumed as fat.

Also, timing your insulin and igf-1 spikes (from hgh injections) brings great results. When you inject Humalog/Novolin-r/etc, the insulin gets bound to the receptors that your igf-1 would normally get wasted to. So, now that igf-1 cannot bind to those receptors, you have much higher levels of free igf-1 flowing through your body and it lasts much, much longer. Try doing a blood test for igf levels 10 hours after your last hgh injection without insulin injections, and then do it again with insulin injections (timed correctly. Please keep reading for proper timing) and look at the difference in igf levels in your blood). Longer presence of igf-1 means less fat storage and more muscle building. I like to time my hgh and insulin in this way:

Pre workout: hgh injection (my preworkout meal finished 1 hour prior), 30 minutes later inject Humalog, 10 minutes later begin warmup cardio for 5 minutes, after cardio is completed (15 minutes after Humalog injection) begin consuming 50 grams of dextrose with 10-15 grams of eaa's and 5-10 grams of creatine. Some people say to chug the drink, some people say to sip it throughout workout. I time it like this because the igf spike and the insulin spike occur at the same time (please note that the spikes are different with Novolin-r and you should inject hgh at the same time as Novolin-r).

So, during my workouts, I not only have a source of fast acting carbs, creatine, and eaa's getting shuttled straight to my muscles, but I also have a shit load of igf-1 getting to the muscles as well.

In conclusion, I believe that without insulin use, a lot of igf-1 from hgh gets wasted, and your body will not be as efficient at shuttling carbs and other nutrients to the muscle which insulin is king at doing. When you use insulin and not hgh, you hear a lot of guys saying "oh I just get fat, and that's it". Well, try taking insulin with lots of HGH and you won't be saying that anymore.

I can't argue with anything stated above as it is all true. Maybe I didn't stick to the protocol long enough, maybe my HGH was fake, I'm not sure but what I do know is that my insulin gains were not permanent but man, did I ever look crazy full while running it. Personally I did have some pretty crazy strength gains but the size just didn't seem to stay on.

Weird thing is, I didn't seem to get fat at all. My body seemed to stay leaner while on the insulin but now that I think about it, thats kind of a pretty big sign that I wasn't eating enough or at least could have pushed things a bit more with the food. At the end of the day, we all react different to different compounds and on top of that, who knows what were putting in us is real and whats not but I'll definitely still be messing around with slin in my off season to see if I can find the sweet spot in terms of gains.

[kaptainkeezy04]

I can't argue with anything stated above as it is all true. Maybe I didn't stick to the protocol long enough, maybe my HGH was fake, I'm not sure but what I do know is that my insulin gains were not permanent but man, did I ever look crazy full while running it. Personally I did have some pretty crazy strength gains but the size just didn't seem to stay on.

Weird thing is, I didn't seem to get fat at all. My body seemed to stay leaner while on the insulin but now that I think about it, thats kind of a pretty big sign that I wasn't eating enough or at least could have pushed things a bit more with the food. At the end of the day, we all react different to different compounds and on top of that, who knows what were putting in us is real and whats not but I'll definitely still be messing around with slin in my off season to see if I can find the sweet spot in terms of gains.

You say you didn't make any gains and this was just fullness you got. That could be true, especially if you weren't running legit hgh. One thing you could do is take measurements of different muscles while flat (I'm talking low carb and low water, low sodium for a couple of days) before an insulin cycle and then again after and compare the difference. Though the insulin pump can last a few days in my experience so perhaps just start the low carb cycle again after being off insulin for 3 days.