Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
a lot of my phase cycling protocols contain what I label a "volumization" phase. they often times include things like Eq and Anadrol . because I find these drugs (eq has to be high enough dosage) volumize cells extremely well. you retain nutrients, minerals, water, etc.. in cells extremely well. you become more vascular because your retaining a lot more nutrients and water in the blood stream . not because your rbc or hematocrit is elevated

this volumization effect though can lead to lethargy over time because your body is working harder retaining so much . yes hematocrit is likely going up a bit as well , but the lethargy is not from the high hematocrit itself (though its easy to confuse whats going on and think this is the cause)..

if you were to get your hematocrit to say 51 , from 47 , without using AAS (which have retentive properties that cause the lethargy) and just doing things like living at high altitude and sleeping in a barometric chamber , your cardio capacity would likely increase, not decrease .
its the secondary effects from the AAS that are causing the lethargy and decline in cardio capacity
I see what you mean. I read a lot of books on different expeditions to the Himalayas on Everest and K2, and I remember reading about some people (especially older people) experiencing heart attacks and dying even at base camp. Now whether they didn’t acclimate quickly enough or whether the cell volumization, as you call it, caused this to happen, I don’t know. I know they said that for the indigenous Sherpa people who live at those altitudes, they have evolved over time to deal with the atmosphere, but for the rest of us, being at that altitude for too long can be taxing on the health.