Bulking

[Kyle1337]

Bulking comes from food. Eat too much, regardless what drugs you take, and you will 'bulk'. When I first started my bulk, I kept it very lean and healthy with EQ. I shortly added other drugs and it was evident the 'wet' look showed. If you can stay on primo, that's a better substitute. Just don't add in all the 'wet' compounds IMO. Low dose tren and primo and some HGH, and I doubt you could even force yourself to hold water LOL

[Proximal]

Bulking comes from food. Eat too much, regardless what drugs you take, and you will 'bulk'. When I first started my bulk, I kept it very lean and healthy with EQ. I shortly added other drugs and it was evident the 'wet' look showed. If you can stay on primo, that's a better substitute. Just don't add in all the 'wet' compounds IMO. Low dose tren and primo and some HGH, and I doubt you could even force yourself to hold water LOL

I think I’m asking then, what is the value of the bloat & water to the addition of muscle?

I understand the diet aspect with respect to bulking. TY for your reply Kyle.

[Quester]

I think I’m asking then, what is the value of the bloat & water to the addition of muscle?

I understand the diet aspect with respect to bulking. TY for your reply Kyle.

GH has written a lot about high estrogen on cycle facilitating more growth hormone and other things.
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I think one benefit of having more water is having more nutrients, including water, in the cells and extracellular spaces available for growth and repair.
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The wet-look may be a real benefit but it is personal preference. It's not something I'm going for and it isn't vital for growth. Additionally, I think the wet-AAS are also heavier on the side effects.

[charger69]

GH has written a lot about high estrogen on cycle facilitating more growth hormone and other things.
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I think one benefit of having more water is having more nutrients, including water, in the cells and extracellular spaces available for growth and repair.
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The wet-look may be a real benefit but it is personal preference. It's not something I'm going for and it isn't vital for growth. Additionally, I think the wet-AAS are also heavier on the side effects.

Yes, water retention does screw with you. There is a balance. I went to an extreme and had to cut back..... or maybe I was just a big pussy. LOL


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[Quester]

Yes, water retention does screw with you. There is a balance. I went to an extreme and had to cut back..... or maybe I was just a big pussy. LOL
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I and everyone who knows you, I'm sure, am very glad you are okay.

[The road]

Yes, water retention does screw with you. There is a balance. I went to an extreme and had to cut back..... or maybe I was just a big pussy. LOL


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Finally... Something I know the answer to!

[Wyatt 88]

Eat 50 calories above and you will gain. Who wants to look like a fat bag anytime of the year?

[Charlie67]

I think I’m asking then, what is the value of the bloat & water to the addition of muscle?

I understand the diet aspect with respect to bulking. TY for your reply Kyle.

Bulking is one of those words that seems to very in definition from person to person... In a lot of people I see that say they're bulking are just eating a shit ton of food without any real thought and hammering gear. They say they're bulking, but it seems like they're just getting unnecessarily fat. "Bulking" might just be an unfortunate word choice for "eating above maintenance calories", But as we all know (especially as we age Prox, lol) getting our bodies to respond in ANY positive way sometimes take work. I do tend to believe you need to have excess calories if you want to grow, but it's so very dependent on the person. And age is such a huge modifier... For example, I walk around a little fat already, I have plenty of excess energy already stored in my body. So my current cycle is geared towards using that surplus stored energy as the primary driver for muscle growth. So I'm not bulking per se, because I don't need to take in the surplus calories because I already have them to use.

But to your question, there's probably value in storing high levels of glycogen, normally a byproduct of eating heavy. And for me, when I'm full of water my joints feel so much better, which allows me to work a little harder... But there is that line in water retention that when I cross it, I just get really uncomfortable.... Sleep suffers, etc, etc.

Here's much more helpful info from Gearheaded's post: https://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-...imes-myth.html