Quote Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong View Post
I think you got something about me very wrong. I'm not a fan of Donnie or Joe. In fact I despise them, all of the major parties, the entire media (mainstream and "not so mainstream"), the education system, the big corporations and the cabal that rules over them all.

I also understand almost all people base entirely what they know on things they hear from the media, what they've been indoctrinated with in school and crap their churches and families drilled in to them. Even if elections were legitimate, the people voting in them are incapable of making sound decisions.

A candidate doesn't get put on a ballot, unless they're hand-picked by the real people that control America. Likewise propositions don't get put on ballots without similar approval.

So no, I don't support any of it. The fear of armed insurrection is the only thing pushing back at all and that's being eroded day by day.
Sorry to assume, it's just something that I've noticed by now, that gun guys tend to steer right more than left. I support people's right to protect themselves, and guns are part of the deal. Personally, I don't watch much news at all anymore, but I will read articles and watch things where I can form my own opinion. Most of my opinions on Trump have been from hearing the words coming out of his own mouth, and I think he's a bigger problem to our country than any liberal/conservative out there.

It's just interesting for me to analyze how people's minds work; for example, the huge Evangelical support Trump gets, meanwhile he's banging a Slovenian "model" a few decades younger than him that he cheated on with a pornstar... and who knows how many other wh*res. Then we are supposed to believe that the party of family values cares about those values when Trump clearly doesn't. And to bring it all back together, a lot (most) gun guys support him, yet he literally is treating the country like a dictatorship, abusing his power, getting rid of competent professionals in all offices, only to replace them with incompetent "yes men" or cronies.

A democracy falls slowly, but it starts with the type of stuff Trump is doing. It sets a precedence for the following leaders to follow. If we are ok with this type of stuff, what will the next election bring... and the next? America is falling in stance around the world, in all free nations, while Trump is buddy-buddies with the world's dictators and speaks highly of them. The draft dodger called our military service men and women "losers" and "suckers," yet he claims to be doing great for our military (but what has he actually done?). Our military was already spending more than the next 10 strongest powers combined, how much more military do we really need? He dishonored McCain, a military veteran, because he was a war prisoner.

Then the wall is a joke. He built a few hundred yards and gave up because they realized it was never going to happen. It's not feasible. The health insurance he promised is nowhere to be found. His tax records he promised to reveal (like every other political person who takes office in order to reveal any potential conflicts of interest) after the election still hasn't been revealed. He gave the top 1% tax cuts that ended up putting us in an even greater deficit. The book he supposedly wrote "The Art of the Deal" is not even written by him. The guy who wrote the book for him even thinks Donald is a narcissist and is unfit to lead our country. He has an unheard of, record-breaking 85% turnover in his white house "A-team." Mostly all of them have talked of his incompetence in the White House and his abuse of power. He's had numerous bankruptcies and it is believed, from various sources, that he is over $400 million in debt, which makes you wonder who lent him the money since no American bank or investment firm would trust him after his multiple bankruptcies?

Yet, what makes people like him? His nod and wink to white supremacist groups? His wild conspiratorial claims and peddling of actual, real fake news (unlike the real news he wants us to think is fake). His pandering to people he actually despises? Does anyone actually think Trump really cares about the middle class or about the average family? He gives two fucks. He says whatever will make people cheer him, but he has no principles, morals, servitude to the people, or integrity. We all see how quickly he turns on his "allies." He's quick to throw anyone under the bus to save his own ass. He took Putin's word over our own intelligence's findings that the Kremlin put bounties on American heads. What he is doing is slowly dismantling trust in the media, intelligence agencies, and even now scientists and professionals. He knows more than all of them, just listen to him. That's pure, 100% dictatorial behavior. I grew up in a country with one, I know what I'm looking at. To top it all off, he blatantly said he's not sure if he'll abdicate office if (once he) loses the election. I mean...

So, while he may be pandering to the gun folks and spreading lies (as pubs have done for years, but wonder why it never happened) about Biden or whatever opponent not allowing you to have your guns, he's only doing it as long as it serves him. He fortunately will never have the time of day, but he'd be the first to remove that right as it sees him fit... because he doesn't actually care about the constitution (as he repeatedly side-stepped and flat out stepped on), he only cares about himself.

I guess this response should have been in Beetlejuices thread, but I'm sure it would have been swamped by his many bullshit non-stories and propaganda. Whatever though, everyone will have their opinion on guns, presidents, whatever. I guess I'm a little passionate about what I deem to be probably the most important election of our lives... and to see people support a guy like that, I just don't get it. Gun policy or no gun policy.