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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Not so sure political experience is really necessary. It may be more of an impediment. Quick thought when it comes to Kushner, he's succeded in multiple middle east peace agreements when decades of politicians failed. Is that a bad thing? It's talent that matters, not how long you've sat in public office.
    As far as the middle east goes...

    The ones who are at "war" are Palestine and Isreal...
    There will be no "peace" until that is resolved.

    Let's see how this agreement unfolds over the next several years.

    Many agreements are made to only be quickly broken.
    Think Hitler and Stalin druing the begining of World War II.

    If you don't see how putting yes men, as in your siblings, into positions of power is questionable at best then I would have to disagree with you.
    I would rather someone knowledgable put in place. (that doesn't mean those people have to be politicians...)

    But I will go back to what is the whole point of this thread...

    Trump and Trump Jr. believe that 1,000 Americans dying every day is almost nothing.

    And not one Trump supporter in this thread has condemned them for that belief.

    I personally would trade that "peace deal" for 1,000 American lives.

    I guess I am the nationalist now.

    I have seen people argue that they will vote for Trump because the stock market went up.
    guess what... the stock market does that over time...

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    Did you vote for Obama because the stock market went up?

    I have seen people argue that their house value went up.
    same as stocks... houses go up over time...

    I have seen people say green house gas emissions went down during Trump...
    guess what... that is because of Covid... has nothing to do with Trump pulling out of the Paris Accord or rolling back every EPA act out there.

    https://www.nationalgeographic.com/s...-not-for-long/

    The truth is...
    Trump inherited the longest economic expansion in history and drastically incresed the deficit.

    He has faced one major challenge during his presidency and failed miserably.
    And Americans are dying because of it.

    So you can cling to your stock market, or your house value, or your unfinished wall.

    Trump is on tape lying to us about covid from the beginning.

    And he is still lying now.

    If Americans dying doesn't open your eyes then I guess nothing will.

    We will see starting in 2 days how history is going to view Trump.

    #roundingacorner
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog View Post
    As far as the middle east goes...

    The ones who are at "war" are Palestine and Isreal...
    There will be no "peace" until that is resolved.

    So because Palestine doesn't agree yet multiple other countries do, the deal is still bad. Glass half empty right? Let's remember, the Palestinian leadership pays the family of suicide bombers.....

    Let's see how this agreement unfolds over the next several years.

    Agree. There's never a guarantee but at least it's a good start. Far better than any predecessors.

    Many agreements are made to only be quickly broken.
    Think Hitler and Stalin druing the begining of World War II.

    If you don't see how putting yes men, as in your siblings, into positions of power is questionable at best then I would have to disagree with you.
    I would rather someone knowledgable put in place. (that doesn't mean those people have to be politicians...)

    So because they're family they're automatically "yes men." BS. So if someone in your family agrees with you they are yes men as well? I also guess you consider them not knowledgeable? I guess you're thankful Hunter is not campaigning for dad. Speaking of laptops....


    But I will go back to what is the whole point of this thread...

    Trump and Trump Jr. believe that 1,000 Americans dying every day is almost nothing.

    And not one Trump supporter in this thread has condemned them for that belief.

    I personally would trade that "peace deal" for 1,000 American lives.

    I guess I am the nationalist now.
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    Where on earth do you get that assumption from? They've never said that. Sorry they're not pessimistic and looking for a "dark winter." I'm curious what Trump has not done regarding this pandemic. Hell, even the governors of CA and NY constantly praised him for his efforts. Biden plan is simply Trumps plan using different verbiage. Of course Joe wouldn't have closed air travel down for a couple months which would not doubt have resulted in an extremely amplified rate of death.

    I have seen people argue that they will vote for Trump because the stock market went up.
    guess what... the stock market does that over time...

    It does. Just like the earth warms and cools. Amazing.

    Attachment 180117

    Did you vote for Obama because the stock market went up?
    No, but I did vote for Obama once. But soon realized he was all talk (actually an amazing speaker) and no results, imho.

    I have seen people argue that their house value went up.
    same as stocks... houses go up over time...

    I have seen people say green house gas emissions went down during Trump...
    guess what... that is because of Covid... has nothing to do with Trump pulling out of the Paris Accord or rolling back every EPA act out there.

    https://www.nationalgeographic.com/s...-not-for-long/

    The truth is...
    Trump inherited the longest economic expansion in history and drastically incresed the deficit.

    He has faced one major challenge during his presidency and failed miserably.
    And Americans are dying because of it.

    Pandemics happen. He didn't create it yet he's done everything to fight it. He's not Nostradamus and could have predicted all this. Just thankfully Joe and Nancy weren't in charge as they would have done nothing to stop it when Trump did. And that's on tape. Yes, it's horrible people have died yet it could have been far worse. BTW, people die of all kinds of things every day. Hell, medical malpractice kills over 400,000 a year. No one seems up in arms about that.

    So you can cling to your stock market, or your house value, or your unfinished wall.

    Trump is on tape lying to us about covid from the beginning.

    And he is still lying now.

    If Americans dying doesn't open your eyes then I guess nothing will.

    We will see starting in 2 days how history is going to view Trump.

    Remove the personalities from the equation and look at results.

    #roundingacorner
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    in bold.
    Oh no!!!!! They have sucked Kelkel into the political realm. LOL


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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
    Oh no!!!!! They have sucked Kelkel into the political realm. LOL


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    So because Palestine doesn't agree yet multiple other countries do, the deal is still bad. Glass half empty right? Let's remember, the Palestinian leadership pays the family of suicide bombers.....

    Glass half full. Just a very small glass.
    My point is that the difficult peace deal is not still left to be done.

    So because they're family they're automatically "yes men." BS. So if someone in your family agrees with you they are yes men as well? I also guess you consider them not knowledgeable? I guess you're thankful Hunter is not campaigning for dad. Speaking of laptops....


    Trump has fired every person who isn't a yes man. Hell, he is even threatening to fire Fauci.

    As far as lap tops... We've been waiting 4 years for the Hillary BS to turn into something besides a hoax.
    My guess is that this laptop is also a hoax.
    Still waiting on Obamagate to unfold too...

    Where on earth do you get that assumption from? They've never said that.


    I will repeat this one again. For fuck's sake, the thread is about it...
    from post#1 above

    Trump JR...
    “These people are truly morons,” he told Laura Ingraham. “I went through the CDC data ’cause I kept hearing about new infections. But I was like, ‘Why aren’t they talking about deaths?’ Oh, oh, because the number is almost nothing!

    1000 people a day is not almost nothing.
    Please provide a counter argument.

    As for Trumpy Sr...
    All I can say is #roundingacorner

    The sheer fact that Trumpers don't give a shit that Trump and his cronies downplay 1000 American deaths a day is truly disturbing.

    So that is where my assumption comes from. It comes straight from the horses ass.

    Hell even just 18 of his rallies caused 700 deaths.

    Study: Trump rallies caused over 30,000 COVID cases, led to over 700 deaths

    https://www.fox5ny.com/news/study-tr...ver-700-deaths

    And he's has had over 100 rallies so you know...
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...mpaign_rallies

    Yet he mocks Biden for his virtual rallies.
    Fuck, maybe Biden didn't want to kill more Americans than Osama Bin Laden.

    Everyone knew that rallies where a bad idea.
    Ego man couldn't help himself.

    Pandemics happen. He didn't create it yet he's done everything to fight it. He's not Nostradamus and could have predicted all this. Just thankfully Joe and Nancy weren't in charge as they would have done nothing to stop it when Trump did. And that's on tape. Yes, it's horrible people have died yet it could have been far worse. BTW, people die of all kinds of things every day. Hell, medical malpractice kills over 400,000 a year. No one seems up in arms about that.

    According to a recent study by Johns Hopkins, more than 250,000 people in the United States die every year because of medical mistakes, making it the third leading cause of death after heart disease and cancer.
    Just because people die of one cause doesn't mean we shouldn't try to prevent other deaths.
    I could use your arguement for keeping abortions legal otherwise... hey... what's a few more dead right?

    I'm curious what Trump has not done regarding this pandemic.
    Trump has downplayed the epidemic from the getgo.
    He is on tape admitting it to Woodward. I am sure you have heard the recordings.
    His major mistake is downplaying the masks.
    The masks are the best defense we have in preventing its spread.
    He still mocks Biden and others to this day over its use.

    It amazes me that people wear pants everyday to cover their privates and don't view it is imposing on their freedom but..
    Wearing a mask to protect their infectious parts is imposing on their freedoms.



    If you feel like answering I would really like to hear how you, or anyone, is fine with Trump and Jr. being fine with 1000 dead Americans a day.
    Last edited by The Deadlifting Dog; 11-02-2020 at 01:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog View Post
    So because Palestine doesn't agree yet multiple other countries do, the deal is still bad. Glass half empty right? Let's remember, the Palestinian leadership pays the family of suicide bombers.....

    Glass half full. Just a very small glass.
    My point is that the difficult peace deal is not still left to be done.

    So because they're family they're automatically "yes men." BS. So if someone in your family agrees with you they are yes men as well? I also guess you consider them not knowledgeable? I guess you're thankful Hunter is not campaigning for dad. Speaking of laptops....


    Trump has fired every person who isn't a yes man. Hell, he is even threatening to fire Fauci.

    As far as lap tops... We've been waiting 4 years for the Hillary BS to turn into something besides a hoax.
    My guess is that this laptop is also a hoax.
    Still waiting on Obamagate to unfold too...

    Where on earth do you get that assumption from? They've never said that.


    I will repeat this one again. For fuck's sake, the thread is about it...
    from post#1 above

    Trump JR...
    “These people are truly morons,” he told Laura Ingraham. “I went through the CDC data ’cause I kept hearing about new infections. But I was like, ‘Why aren’t they talking about deaths?’ Oh, oh, because the number is almost nothing!

    1000 people a day is not almost nothing.
    Please provide a counter argument.

    As for Trumpy Sr...
    All I can say is #roundingacorner

    The sheer fact that Trumpers don't give a shit that Trump and his cronies downplay 1000 American deaths a day is truly disturbing.

    So that is where my assumption comes from. It comes straight from the horses ass.

    Hell even just 18 of his rallies caused 700 deaths.

    Study: Trump rallies caused over 30,000 COVID cases, led to over 700 deaths

    https://www.fox5ny.com/news/study-tr...ver-700-deaths

    And he's has had over 100 rallies so you know...
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...mpaign_rallies

    Yet he mocks Biden for his virtual rallies.
    Fuck, maybe Biden didn't want to kill more Americans than Osama Bin Laden.

    Everyone knew that rallies where a bad idea.
    Ego man couldn't help himself.

    Pandemics happen. He didn't create it yet he's done everything to fight it. He's not Nostradamus and could have predicted all this. Just thankfully Joe and Nancy weren't in charge as they would have done nothing to stop it when Trump did. And that's on tape. Yes, it's horrible people have died yet it could have been far worse. BTW, people die of all kinds of things every day. Hell, medical malpractice kills over 400,000 a year. No one seems up in arms about that.

    According to a recent study by Johns Hopkins, more than 250,000 people in the United States die every year because of medical mistakes, making it the third leading cause of death after heart disease and cancer.
    Just because people die of one cause doesn't mean we shouldn't try to prevent other deaths.
    I could use your arguement for keeping abortions legal otherwise... hey... what's a few more dead right?

    I'm curious what Trump has not done regarding this pandemic.
    Trump has downplayed the epidemic from the getgo.
    He is on tape admitting it to Woodward. I am sure you have heard the recordings.
    His major mistake is downplaying the masks.
    The masks are the best defense we have in preventing its spread.
    He still mocks Biden and others to this day over its use.

    It amazes me that people wear pants everyday to cover their privates and don't view it is imposing on their freedom but..
    Wearing a mask to protect their infectious parts is imposing on their freedoms.



    If you feel like answering I would really like to hear how you, or anyone, is fine with Trump and Jr. being fine with 1000 dead Americans a day.
    Well said... it's a shame we have to explain these things to adults. Like, are we not all watching the same things unfold? Or do some of us get our info from Facebook and Trump tweets? How can facts be misconstrued? It's baffling.

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