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    Yes, people are dying. Unfortunately the overwhelming majority have comorbidities. Those with comorbidities should obviously sequester themselves far more than a younger, healthier person with no other health issues. No, I'm not saying people should not wear masks when needed and practice proper hygene, just that circumstances dictate what's relevant or not.

    I retired from government work and would constantly see blanket edicts put forth forcing compliance on everyone instead of a more targeted approach. When a government begins to select which business can or cannot operate there is a problem. Walmart, Amazon, Target, etc all get even richer whereas mom and pop stores have to close down, sometimes permanently. I simply don't agree with that.

    A few days ago I lost one of my oldest and best friends assumably to covid. When I was told the story of how he passed and how quickly it occured it reminded me of an article i read (medical) regarding covid that seemed to fit his death to a T.

    "Previously patients used to drop dead on the road or even before reaching a hospital due to reduced oxygen in the blood. This is called Happy Hypoxia -- where even though the oxygen saturation was gradually reducing, the covid patients did not have symptoms until it became critically less, like sometimes 70%.

    Normally we become breathless if oxygen saturation reduces below 90%. This breathlessness is not triggered in covid patients so we were late in getting sick patients to hospitals in February 2020. Now since knowing about HH we are monitoring oxygen saturation of all patients with a simple home use pulse oximeter and getting them to the hospital if their oxygen saturation drops to 93% or less. This gives doctors time to correct the oxygen deficiency in the blood and there is a better survival chance in Oct 2020."

    It seems my friend was breathless and dizzy for a period of time, but I assume stubborn as well as he did not seek medical attention. He was health nut and worked out daily, never drank, drugs, etc. His wife found him passed out and called an ambulance. He coded 3 times (heart attack) and the last time they could not bring him back. So, at this point I don't yet know if it was heart attacks due to the effects of covid, but that is the assumption.

    Moral of the story. Be safe, take care of yourself, be respectful of others and if something feels amiss, talk to your doctor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Yes, people are dying. Unfortunately the overwhelming majority have comorbidities. Those with comorbidities should obviously sequester themselves far more than a younger, healthier person with no other health issues. No, I'm not saying people should not wear masks when needed and practice proper hygene, just that circumstances dictate what's relevant or not.

    I retired from government work and would constantly see blanket edicts put forth forcing compliance on everyone instead of a more targeted approach. When a government begins to select which business can or cannot operate there is a problem. Walmart, Amazon, Target, etc all get even richer whereas mom and pop stores have to close down, sometimes permanently. I simply don't agree with that.

    A few days ago I lost one of my oldest and best friends assumably to covid. When I was told the story of how he passed and how quickly it occured it reminded me of an article i read (medical) regarding covid that seemed to fit his death to a T.

    "Previously patients used to drop dead on the road or even before reaching a hospital due to reduced oxygen in the blood. This is called Happy Hypoxia -- where even though the oxygen saturation was gradually reducing, the covid patients did not have symptoms until it became critically less, like sometimes 70%.

    Normally we become breathless if oxygen saturation reduces below 90%. This breathlessness is not triggered in covid patients so we were late in getting sick patients to hospitals in February 2020. Now since knowing about HH we are monitoring oxygen saturation of all patients with a simple home use pulse oximeter and getting them to the hospital if their oxygen saturation drops to 93% or less. This gives doctors time to correct the oxygen deficiency in the blood and there is a better survival chance in Oct 2020."

    It seems my friend was breathless and dizzy for a period of time, but I assume stubborn as well as he did not seek medical attention. He was health nut and worked out daily, never drank, drugs, etc. His wife found him passed out and called an ambulance. He coded 3 times (heart attack) and the last time they could not bring him back. So, at this point I don't yet know if it was heart attacks due to the effects of covid, but that is the assumption.

    Moral of the story. Be safe, take care of yourself, be respectful of others and if something feels amiss, talk to your doctor.
    Damn. Sorry about your friend, Kel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by almostgone View Post
    Damn. Sorry about your friend, Kel.
    Thanks AG. He was one of the best humans I've ever known. Quite a shock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Thanks AG. He was one of the best humans I've ever known. Quite a shock.
    Did he have family?
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    Quote Originally Posted by almostgone View Post
    Did he have family?

    Yep. Wife, kids, grandkids. Extremely successful individual professionally and personally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Yep. Wife, kids, grandkids. Extremely successful individual professionally and personally.
    I’m sorry for your loss kel...it crazy how it effect everyone so differently...I’ve had colds way worse than this yet Cuz was sick as hell and your friend passed...it’s heartbreaking...

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    To those of you that have suffered losses and have fallen ill, I wish you the best. I also hope that everyone has a safe holiday season (particularly paramount in this current case).

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Yep. Wife, kids, grandkids. Extremely successful individual professionally and personally.
    Sorry to hear this Kel nothing is worse than losing a friend like this, they dont come around often, losing a friend like this is devastating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jstone View Post
    Sorry to hear this Kel nothing is worse than losing a friend like this, they dont come around often, losing a friend like this is devastating.

    Thanks brother!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Yep. Wife, kids, grandkids. Extremely successful individual professionally and personally.
    Shit. So sad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Yes, people are dying. Unfortunately the overwhelming majority have comorbidities. Those with comorbidities should obviously sequester themselves far more than a younger, healthier person with no other health issues. No, I'm not saying people should not wear masks when needed and practice proper hygene, just that circumstances dictate what's relevant or not.

    I retired from government work and would constantly see blanket edicts put forth forcing compliance on everyone instead of a more targeted approach. When a government begins to select which business can or cannot operate there is a problem. Walmart, Amazon, Target, etc all get even richer whereas mom and pop stores have to close down, sometimes permanently. I simply don't agree with that.

    A few days ago I lost one of my oldest and best friends assumably to covid. When I was told the story of how he passed and how quickly it occured it reminded me of an article i read (medical) regarding covid that seemed to fit his death to a T.

    "Previously patients used to drop dead on the road or even before reaching a hospital due to reduced oxygen in the blood. This is called Happy Hypoxia -- where even though the oxygen saturation was gradually reducing, the covid patients did not have symptoms until it became critically less, like sometimes 70%.

    Normally we become breathless if oxygen saturation reduces below 90%. This breathlessness is not triggered in covid patients so we were late in getting sick patients to hospitals in February 2020. Now since knowing about HH we are monitoring oxygen saturation of all patients with a simple home use pulse oximeter and getting them to the hospital if their oxygen saturation drops to 93% or less. This gives doctors time to correct the oxygen deficiency in the blood and there is a better survival chance in Oct 2020."

    It seems my friend was breathless and dizzy for a period of time, but I assume stubborn as well as he did not seek medical attention. He was health nut and worked out daily, never drank, drugs, etc. His wife found him passed out and called an ambulance. He coded 3 times (heart attack) and the last time they could not bring him back. So, at this point I don't yet know if it was heart attacks due to the effects of covid, but that is the assumption.

    Moral of the story. Be safe, take care of yourself, be respectful of others and if something feels amiss, talk to your doctor.
    Sorry for your loss Kel.

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