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    I greatly appreciate your response, thank you.

    It was the effectiveness rate that we have seen conflicting articles on, and these are very recent articles. I have seen their version of success being not dying and another version of success of being not “severely” ill. As these studies have not been published or reviewed by medical journals, I thought you might have had greater access. If in fact the vaccine assures immunity (even if at below 90%, let alone 94%), I would say that that is a phenomenal number after such a short development time.

    Regarding the herd immunity, couldn’t be in more agreement & have had far too many frustrating discussions with others in the previous months about that.

    I would be very interested in those that could get sick or even die however. I think that fact alone would put a great many at better ease when deciding if they should take the vaccine. I personally will get sick when I get the flu vaccine & will no longer take it. That is my concern regarding this vaccine.

    Thank you again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wango View Post
    I would be very interested in those that could get sick or even die however. I think that fact alone would put a great many at better ease when deciding if they should take the vaccine. I personally will get sick when I get the flu vaccine & will no longer take it. That is my concern regarding this vaccine.
    Not sure I understand the question?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tarmyg View Post
    Not sure I understand the question?
    Not really a question, but a reply where you stated the data hasn’t been gleaned yet.

    Because Covid-19 has such a varied rate on different ages, you could see how the elderly, the healthcare workers, first responders are at a higher risk to Covid and would less likely worry about negative effects from the vaccine. Just as you said, you’re far more likely to be infected & subsequently ill from Covid, as compared to the vaccine. Thus the vaccine seems to be well worth any risks.

    But, unlike the flu and other diseases that are far more serious in their symptoms for the younger population as compared to Covid, and where a vaccination is definitely warranted; Covid is different. There still is a back-lash and distrust of other vaccines by parents concerned about the [I]possibility[I] of autism. And if you are in your late teens or early twenties, what’s the likelihood you are going to be hospitalized or die from Covid? I can see how parents could be very hesitant about giving their child a vaccination to a disease that really isn’t that dangerous for their children. BUT, if you see a vaccine “rushed”, where other vaccines typically take years of study and development, I too might be concerned. What potential long term side effects might this vaccine possibly cause?

    If I were to take the vaccine or give it to my children, I would want some definitive assurances that it is indeed safe.

    Once again, not trying to be argumentative, but this is data that hasn’t been available to my knowledge. So regarding the general public being reluctant or concerned about being “forced” to vaccinate (which won’t happen), I can see their concern (unlike the reluctance of mask wearing, social distancing & large gatherings).

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    Quote Originally Posted by wango View Post
    But, unlike the flu and other diseases that are far more serious in their symptoms for the younger population as compared to Covid, and where a vaccination is definitely warranted; Covid is different.
    Do you have any data to back up this statement? I am genuinely interested in what should be obvious reasons!

    Quote Originally Posted by wango View Post
    And if you are in your late teens or early twenties, what’s the likelihood you are going to be hospitalized or die from Covid?
    I mean, they are not taking the vaccine for themselves but to not transmit the disease to other which is the fact for most people with almost any illness.

    Quote Originally Posted by wango View Post
    I can see how parents could be very hesitant about giving their child a vaccination to a disease that really isn’t that dangerous for their children. BUT, if you see a vaccine “rushed”, where other vaccines typically take years of study and development, I too might be concerned. What potential long term side effects might this vaccine possibly cause?
    I think I answered this to Cuz above but maybe in a different manner. This is not rushed. This is how long it would take if you spend 10-100 times more money on something involving 1000 upon 1000 of more people working towards a single target. The compute bill, alone, for Running the models of this is about $500,000/week. No one spends that kind of money normally on a vaccine as vaccines, generally speaking, is not a money-making machine compared to other medicines.

    Quote Originally Posted by wango View Post
    If I were to take the vaccine or give it to my children, I would want some definitive assurances that it is indeed safe.
    You will never take a single vaccine if this is the requirement, it's that simple. The only one who could tell you this with 100% certainty would be God and I have not seen him making any vaccines lately.

    If you have more targeted questions I'm happy to answer those but anymore wondering about safety, efficacy, and such I have already answered to the best of my ability and I think much can easily be extrapolated from that.

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