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    Quote Originally Posted by Ernst View Post
    You really can't think of any instances over the last four years of Democratic politicians or the people who follow them acting in bad faith?

    Let's be real with each other here.

    Way too many republicans were comfortable and supportive of the lie that lead to the storming of the Capitol. Nothing any democrat has said or done in the last 100 years compares to this.

    I'm reasonable and accept that humanity is flawed and power corrupts, so I'm open to the possibility that people on either side of politics have acted in unfavorable ways. I'd like to hear about what democrats have done to corrupt democracy the way Trump has, though. But they have to be verifiable facts, not conspiracies and things that can't be proven (ie Hillary is a pedophile that drinks blood, masks are unconstitutional, etc).

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    Way too many republicans were comfortable and supportive of the lie that lead to the storming of the Capitol. Nothing any democrat has said or done in the last 100 years compares to this.

    I'm reasonable and accept that humanity is flawed and power corrupts, so I'm open to the possibility that people on either side of politics have acted in unfavorable ways. I'd like to hear about what democrats have done to corrupt democracy the way Trump has, though. But they have to be verifiable facts, not conspiracies and things that can't be proven (ie Hillary is a pedophile that drinks blood, masks are unconstitutional, etc).

    You see, thats what i ain't sure of.

    I mean, an open, and public investigation of all the bizzare and numerous irregularities of this election would've gone a helluva long way toward shit like "unity" and "healing" .

    But it never happened.

    I don't think it's unreasonable to ask why counting stopped at similar times in all contested states, and started again with hundreds of thousands of votes swinging in the wee hours of the morning.

    It's a legitimate question, that i think at least 70 million Americans are asking. So why not answer it, publicly and in the open?

    Why just tell half the country to shut up and take it?

    Smart leaders Don't operate like that. And honest leaders damn sure don't.

    I'm not saying I know anything about what really happened, but I don't trust the people telling me to shut up and take it. And I'm not alone.

    So if we're to bridge a divide, then certain explanations are necessary.

    Why not give them, if its all legitimate? Why refuse and give half the nation the bird if you don't want a fight?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hughinn View Post
    You see, thats what i ain't sure of.

    I mean, an open, and public investigation of all the bizzare and numerous irregularities of this election would've gone a helluva long way toward shit like "unity" and "healing" .

    But it never happened.

    I don't think it's unreasonable to ask why counting stopped at similar times in all contested states, and started again with hundreds of thousands of votes swinging in the wee hours of the morning.

    It's a legitimate question, that i think at least 70 million Americans are asking. So why not answer it, publicly and in the open?

    Why just tell half the country to shut up and take it?

    Smart leaders Don't operate like that. And honest leaders damn sure don't.

    I'm not saying I know anything about what really happened, but I don't trust the people telling me to shut up and take it. And I'm not alone.

    So if we're to bridge a divide, then certain explanations are necessary.

    Why not give them, if its all legitimate? Why refuse and give them the bird?

    Well, if you've been listening to only right-wing media, then that may be the problem. Maybe they didn't mention that each state operates its elections according to their own laws. Some states can start counting before the election, some only after the election closed. Less densely populated areas had more people vote in-person than metropolitan areas. Donald Trump also convinced some of his supporters that mail-in-votes are fraudulent and that people should be weary of them, so his supporters were less likely to vote by mail. In-person votes were counted in real-time, while votes by mail had to be counted after elections stopped in most states... which is why results came in batches. Then we have COVID. I don't have to tell you that the crowded cities that had fewer election buildings had more people vote by mail, and that cities tend to lean more democratic. These are all real reasons. Over 50 courts rejected all of Trump and Co's election fraud claims due to a lack of evidence. I trust our court system over Donald Trump.

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