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    Quote Originally Posted by tarmyg View Post
    I think this needs to be wrapped in the frame of a person who (an opinion thus far) incited violence towards other lawmakers. And politically screening soldiers is, I agree, a slippery slope. Reading about these guys makes me feel somewhat different though as they were pretty radicalized right-wingers and I think that stretches beyond simple political beliefs.

    A question also, what do you mean by "And 70+ million people agree with him."?

    Except, there were politicians on both sides of the isle promoting and enciting violence and hostility. And there still are.

    However, it seems acceptable for one side, just not the other.

    It's like punching someone, then crying foul when you get punched back.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fox...-opponents.amp

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.was...outputType=amp

    https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/20...peech-protest/
    Last edited by Hughinn; 01-20-2021 at 11:10 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hughinn View Post
    Except, there were politicians on both sides of the isle promoting and enciting violence and hostility. And there still are.

    However, it seems acceptable for one side, just not the other.

    It's like punching someone, then crying foul when you get punched back.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fox...-opponents.amp

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.was...outputType=amp

    https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/20...peech-protest/
    Before you post more lies by Fox News contributors, at least post the direct quote, not a cherry-picked and smeared statement meant to mislead. Kamala NEVER encouraged anyone to riot or cause violence. She said that people will not stop protesting and they should not stop.


    I would hope that any thinking man can differentiate between protests at a city-level vs. an attack on our state Capitol aimed at, at the very least, changing the outcome of a fairly run election against the will of the majority of Americans based on a false pretense that the vice president can change the outcome of the election (he can't).


    What is the motive?

    With the protests and riots form BLM, the protests were motivated by police brutality.

    With the protests and riots and attacks on the Capitol, the motivation was a LIE told by Donald J. Trump that there was widespread election fraud (there wasn't - fact), inciting his mob, close to the Capitol, to "fight like hell."


    What is the implication?

    On one side you have riots and protests against police brutality.

    On one side you have riots and protests with threat to harm members of Congress and disrupt a democratic process and the rule of law.


    Are these the same? To they hold the same gravity? Are they motivated by truth or lies? Are they for a just cause or for a false cause? That would be a starting point.

    I'm tired of posting this. I don't understand what you don't understand. I really don't. This is simple stuff. It doesn't take a genius to see the difference and understand the implications.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    Before you post more lies by Fox News contributors, at least post the direct quote, not a cherry-picked and smeared statement meant to mislead. Kamala NEVER encouraged anyone to riot or cause violence. She said that people will not stop protesting and they should not stop.


    I would hope that any thinking man can differentiate between protests at a city-level vs. an attack on our state Capitol aimed at, at the very least, changing the outcome of a fairly run election against the will of the majority of Americans based on a false pretense that the vice president can change the outcome of the election (he can't).


    What is the motive?

    With the protests and riots form BLM, the protests were motivated by police brutality.

    With the protests and riots and attacks on the Capitol, the motivation was a LIE told by Donald J. Trump that there was widespread election fraud (there wasn't - fact), inciting his mob, close to the Capitol, to "fight like hell."


    What is the implication?

    On one side you have riots and protests against police brutality.

    On one side you have riots and protests with threat to harm members of Congress and disrupt a democratic process and the rule of law.


    Are these the same? To they hold the same gravity? Are they motivated by truth or lies? Are they for a just cause or for a false cause? That would be a starting point.

    I'm tired of posting this. I don't understand what you don't understand. I really don't. This is simple stuff. It doesn't take a genius to see the difference and understand the implications.

    Are you suggesting the BLM violence and riots are then acceptable, because you believe the motivation for those actions are just?

    I ask because "fight like hell" could mean alot of things. Especially when alot of the BLM protesters said they were "fighting for racial justice" a phrase many democrat leaders have used.

    If you accept them using the word figuratively, and I assume you do, then why can't you believe Donald Trump said it figuratively as well?

    It seems to me like your taking the position that the ends justify the means.

    Or not?

    Because I don't see the difference between one side enciting violence and the other when nearly identical rhetoric was used.

    I mean, I get that you don't like Tucker Carlson, but does that make it acceptable to attack his home screaming threats because you don't like his political views. ?
    Last edited by Hughinn; 01-20-2021 at 11:57 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hughinn View Post
    Are you suggesting the BLM violence and riots are then acceptable, because you believe the motivation for those actions are just?

    I ask because "fight like hell" could mean alot of things. Especially when alot of the BLM protesters said they were "fighting for racial justice" a phrase many democrat leaders have used.

    If you accept them using the word figuratively, and I assume you do, then why can't you believe Donald Trump said it figuratively as well?

    It seems to me like your taking the position that the ends justify the means.

    Or not?

    Because I don't see the difference between one side enciting violence and the other when nearly identical rhetoric was used.

    I mean, I get that you don't like Tucker Carlson, but does that make it acceptable to attack his home screaming threats because you don't like his political views. ?

    Even if the BLM movement was based on a lie, like Trump's movement, it still would not remotely equate to a president inciting a mob to attack the Capitol over a fairly run election.

    Last I checked, BLM didn't break into the Capitol, call to hang and kill members of congress, and bring zip ties with them.

    Tell me where Kamala Harris said anything like "Fight like hell." Direct quotes please. This is just a tip of the iceberg that was the entire scheme to overthrow the election before it even began. Look at the big picture ( I know you won't).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    Before you post more lies by Fox News contributors, at least post the direct quote, not a cherry-picked and smeared statement meant to mislead. Kamala NEVER encouraged anyone to riot or cause violence. She said that people will not stop protesting and they should not stop.
    For the full unedited version please see below:



    #thetruthshallsetyoufree

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog View Post
    For the full unedited version please see below:



    #thetruthshallsetyoufree
    18:46.
    Peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard"

    What's the difference?


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QKDAp-4Hhs8

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hughinn View Post
    18:46.
    Peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard"

    What's the difference?


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QKDAp-4Hhs8
    So he at 18:46 he talks in his nice voice but almost a full hour later (1:12:30) he says "But I said something is wrong here, something is really wrong, can’t have happened, and we fight. We fight like hell, and if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore."

    Fight like hell huh? I guess Satan is gentle and kind in your mind.

    But the more important fact that goes beyond your comprehension is:
    Trump has played y'all like puppets for many, many months.

    For months before the election he declared that there was fraud.
    And you listened to him and only him.
    He lied to you so damn much that by election morning y'all believed the election was stolen before the votes were even counted.
    And he continued to lie.
    And you listened.
    And he lied some more.
    He lost in the courts. (He was 1-62 last I heard.)
    There were recounts.
    There were signature verifications.
    There were audits.
    The AG, DHS, FBI, CIA, etc. all said is was a fair election BUT...

    Since you only listen to Trump and his lies...
    You are still convinced it is fraudulent...
    and since it is fraudulent the Patriotic thing is to do something about it.

    So for months and months and months Trump worked y'all up like crazed fanatics and when the time was ripe he cried "Fight like hell."
    And you did.


    #inTrumpwetrust


    Be honest with yourself...
    Did you think there would be fraud in the election?
    If you did, why did you think there would be fraud in the election?
    Last edited by The Deadlifting Dog; 01-20-2021 at 12:31 PM.

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