George Floyds family set to receive 27 MILLION dollars

[Hughinn]

What if it happened to one of you guys and the media blamed it on steroids? Well you were on a heavy tren cycle and your neck was 19” and you probably suffered from sleep apnea.

What if it happened after you got in a fight with your wife or after one too many drinks? Does the cop have the right to kneel and put his body weight on your neck/jugular?

I can tell you this much test, the quickest way to wind up your ass kicked by the cops, is to resist arrest, refuse to cooperate and get rowdy.

All of which Mr. Floyd did.

I found out in my youth the best way to deal with cops is to give em your id, answer their questions, and then calmly argue your case after cooperating.

Now, I'm not saying Floyd deserved what he got, because he acted the way he did. But, I can tell you he brought it on himself by acting the way he did.

[Test Monsterone]

I can tell you this much test, the quickest way to wind up your ass kicked by the cops, is to resist arrest, refuse to cooperate and get rowdy.

All of which Mr. Floyd did.

I found out in my youth the best way to deal with cops is to give em your id, answer their questions, and then calmly argue your case after cooperating.

Now, I'm not saying Floyd deserved what he got, because he acted the way he did. But, I can tell you he brought it on himself by acting the way he did.

What you're saying and what I'm saying can both be true. Yes, he should have been acting respectfully, but he wasn't. He was under the influence of drugs, and he probably had issues with law enforcement to begin with. Not to mention psychological issues.

That said, once a man is handcuffed and on the ground, he is helpless. Doesn't make sense that anyone needs to kneel on his neck or chest. He is subdued. Anything that happens after that point is the responsibility of the police. Had the cop been kneeling on his elbow, his legs, or anywhere but the upper chest and neck area, then you can say he died of pre-existing conditions exacerbated by his medical history, drug use, and his heightened state. However, because the cop was kneeling on his neck, and he was handcuffed and not able to support his body weight and that of the cop's with his arms, his respiratory tract and neck/chest was compressed and he died directly from those actions. It doesn't matter if he was on drugs, overweight, had heart disease, etc.

I definitely understand that cops have a right to defend themselves and restrain a person who is resisting arrest, but when the handcuffs are on and the person is on the ground, the only parts of the body that should be restrained are those that could be used to injure the cop. If the guy is trying to spit on the cop, then hold his head dow from the skull.

Like I was saying, what if you had a bad day and the cops were called to your house and what could have been a night in jail turned into you losing your life. Should your wife be content with the outcome because you were not obeying the officers in your time of crisis? So anyone who doesn't comply deserves to die?

So, to sum up my thoughts: He was at fault for everything that lead to his being handcuffed, but the cops were at fault for everything that happened after. And because he died, the cops are at fault for that. Everyone has preexisting conditions of some sort. I wouldn't want my friend killed because he went crazy one night and a cop decided to kneel on his neck, after already being handcuffed. It doesn't make any sense and it's wrong, plain and simple.

[Hughinn]

What you're saying and what I'm saying can both be true. Yes, he should have been acting respectfully, but he wasn't. He was under the influence of drugs, and he probably had issues with law enforcement to begin with. Not to mention psychological issues.

That said, once a man is handcuffed and on the ground, he is helpless. Doesn't make sense that anyone needs to kneel on his neck or chest. He is subdued. Anything that happens after that point is the responsibility of the police. Had the cop been kneeling on his elbow, his legs, or anywhere but the upper chest and neck area, then you can say he died of pre-existing conditions exacerbated by his medical history, drug use, and his heightened state. However, because the cop was kneeling on his neck, and he was handcuffed and not able to support his body weight and that of the cop's with his arms, his respiratory tract and neck/chest was compressed and he died directly from those actions. It doesn't matter if he was on drugs, overweight, had heart disease, etc.

I definitely understand that cops have a right to defend themselves and restrain a person who is resisting arrest, but when the handcuffs are on and the person is on the ground, the only parts of the body that should be restrained are those that could be used to injure the cop. If the guy is trying to spit on the cop, then hold his head dow from the skull.

Like I was saying, what if you had a bad day and the cops were called to your house and what could have been a night in jail turned into you losing your life. Should your wife be content with the outcome because you were not obeying the officers in your time of crisis? So anyone who doesn't comply deserves to die?

So, to sum up my thoughts: He was at fault for everything that lead to his being handcuffed, but the cops were at fault for everything that happened after. And because he died, the cops are at fault for that. Everyone has preexisting conditions of some sort. I wouldn't want my friend killed because he went crazy one night and a cop decided to kneel on his neck, after already being handcuffed. It doesn't make any sense and it's wrong, plain and simple.

I think you're right actually.

I don't think anybody disagrees that the cop went too far in restraining him like that. It was wrong. There's no legitimate argument to be made to the contrary.

[kelkel]

So, to sum up my thoughts: He was at fault for everything that lead to his being handcuffed, but the cops were at fault for everything that happened after. And because he died, the cops are at fault for that.

So you're saying that even though he had a fatal amount of drugs in his system the police are still at fault and that he bears no responsibility? The drugs were in his system before, during and after contact with authorities. It seems logical that he could have died at any point, whether the police were there or not.

[Test Monsterone]

So you're saying that even though he had a fatal amount of drugs in his system the police are still at fault and that he bears no responsibility? The drugs were in his system before, during and after contact with authorities. It seems logical that he could have died at any point, whether the police were there or not.

We’ll never know what would have transpired because the cop kneeled on his neck. Would you agree that it couldn’t have helped his situation that a cop was basically strangling him?