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    Prosecutors press charges which they believe they have a good chance of proving.
    That doesn't mean they don't believe that a greater crime occured.

    Take Al Capone...
    He got sentenced for tax evasion.
    It doesn't mean he wasn't guilty of higher crimes.

    They simply prosecuted him on the crimes which they could get a conviction.


    A lesser offense can serve as a fallback for prosecutors, giving them a way to obtain at least some kind of conviction when the jury might acquit the defendant of a more serious crime.

    https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclope...erious%20crime.
    Last edited by The Deadlifting Dog; 03-15-2021 at 01:18 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog View Post
    Prosecutors press charges which they believe they have a good chance of proving.
    That doesn't mean they don't believe that a greater crime occured.

    Take Al Capone...
    He got sentenced for tax evasion.
    It doesn't mean he wasn't guilty of higher crimes.

    They simply prosecuted him on the crimes which they could get a conviction.


    A lesser offense can serve as a fallback for prosecutors, giving them a way to obtain at least some kind of conviction when the jury might acquit the defendant of a more serious crime.

    https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclope...erious%20crime.
    The problem with that is what we see before us right now in mr. Floyd's case.

    For example, both you and I, are two people from polar opposite view points. You're a liberal, living in a white community of other white liberals, I'm a conservative in a very diverse community around other conservatives of all shapes and colors.

    And even you and I agree that convicting that guy of murder is a long shot, because it's hard to imagine it being murder. We agree on that.

    And we also agree that the death of Mr. Floyd brings attention to the very least, a significant portion of the responsibility for the death itself is on the police. Thats indisputable if one is objective about the situation. Drugs or no drugs, some responsibility is on the police here.

    But it's hard to imagine it being murder.

    So why was he charged with murder, if not for political pressure? And if it was political pressure influence in our court system then we have an entirely new problem. Because justice should be blind to politics.

    So prosecution doesn't always bring charges they think they can get, if political influence plays a roll. In this case,mits highly likely they brought the charges they had to bring to appease the rioting mob at the time.
    Add that to corrupt and dishonest leadership and media that fanned the flames of hatred and division, its hard to see either justice being blindly served, or appeasement of the mob being done at the same time.

    In other words, over charging him, is likely to not help anybody in the long run.and the dishonesty of the media and the democrat party over the details of the case will, only compound and exacerbate the situation further once it progresses
    Last edited by Hughinn; 03-15-2021 at 01:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hughinn View Post
    The problem with that is what we see before us right now in mr. Floyd's case.

    For example, both you and I, are two people from polar opposite view points. You're a liberal, living in a white community of other white liberals, I'm a conservative in a very diverse community around other conservatives of all shapes and colors.

    And even you and I agree that convicting that guy of murder is a long shot, because it's hard to imagine it being murder. We agree on that. Nope. I disagree. I easily can see a 2nd degree murder charge. see below.

    And we also agree that the death of Mr. Floyd brings attention to the very least, a significant portion of the responsibility for the death itself is on the police. Thats indisputable if one is objective about the situation. Drugs or no drugs, some responsibility is on the police here.

    But it's hard to imagine it being murder. I disagree. I think you don't understand the legal term. again see below.

    So why was he charged with murder, if not for political pressure? Because he displayed reckless conduct that displays an obvious lack of concern for human life. again see below. And if it was political pressure influence in our court system then we have an entirely new problem. Because justice should be blind to politics.

    So prosecution doesn't always bring charges they think they can get, if political influence plays a roll. In this case,mits highly likely they brought the charges they had to bring to appease the rioting mob at the time. Disagree. I think they would've added on a hate crime too if you were correct.
    Add that to corrupt and dishonest leadership and media that fanned the flames of hatred and division, its hard to see either justice being blindly served, or appeasement of the mob being done at the same time.

    In other words, over charging him, is likely to not help anybody in the long run.and the dishonesty of the media and the democrat party over the details of the case will, only compound and exacerbate the situation further once it progresses
    Typically, second-degree murder is defined as murder that is not premeditated, or murder that is caused by the offender's reckless conduct that displays an obvious lack of concern for human life.

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/seco...20human%20life.

    I think it will be easy for them to prove reckless conduct and an obvious lack of concern for human life.
    He kneeled on his neck for over 8 minutes and I believe he was dead for at least one of those minutes.
    Kinda hard to argue he needed restraint when he was already dead.



    Note: I have repeated said I am not casting judgement and I will let the courts decide. I am no lawyer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog View Post
    Typically, second-degree murder is defined as murder that is not premeditated, or murder that is caused by the offender's reckless conduct that displays an obvious lack of concern for human life.

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/seco...20human%20life.

    I think it will be easy for them to prove reckless conduct and an obvious lack of concern for human life.
    He kneeled on his neck for over 8 minutes and I believe he was dead for at least one of those minutes.
    Kinda hard to argue he needed restraint when he was already dead.



    Note: I have repeated said I am not casting judgement and I will let the courts decide. I am no lawyer.

    Basically, more or less, I agree.

    First degree murder is not what happened.

    All that other shit, maybe.

    And yes, the officer could have, and obviously should have dome something different.

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