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    Eszopiclone will be your best bet for longer sleep and less potential for rebound insomnia (I sold Ambien and Ambien CR for 8 years and am also an insane insomniac. I know my shit). Lunesta (branded) was designed as a chronic medication.

    Valium and Xanax are benzodiazepines and although bring on sleep, they have really short half lives and have a tendency for tolerance resulting in insomnia and poor sleep upon discontinuation.

    They work great for initiating sleep though and can be a great short term solution, but be prepared for middle of the night awakenings and potentially grogginess. I like around 1 mg of Xanax for sleep. Diazepam (Valium) is like eating a tic tac for me, so I don’t bother.

    They also street value though and have a higher potential for abuse than say lunesta or Ambien.
    If you like the benzodiazepines, I’d look into Atavan, longer half life and better sleep studies.

    2 or 3 mgs of eszopliclone is where I’d start.

    The 3 mgs is notorious for leaving a metallic taste in your mouth the next morning so don’t be alarmed if it happens.

    If that fails, eat a 42 ounce porterhouse,
    …puts me to sleep every time

    Guys will recommend OTC’s and melatonin, for me I’m better off eating a sour patch kid.
    They don’t work a bit…

    Trazadone is my drug of choice for sleep

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    Quote Originally Posted by SampsonandDelilah View Post
    Eszopiclone will be your best bet for longer sleep and less potential for rebound insomnia (I sold Ambien and Ambien CR for 8 years and am also an insane insomniac. I know my shit). Lunesta (branded) was designed as a chronic medication.

    Valium and Xanax are benzodiazepines and although bring on sleep, they have really short half lives and have a tendency for tolerance resulting in insomnia and poor sleep upon discontinuation.

    They work great for initiating sleep though and can be a great short term solution, but be prepared for middle of the night awakenings and potentially grogginess. I like around 1 mg of Xanax for sleep. Diazepam (Valium) is like eating a tic tac for me, so I don’t bother.

    They also street value though and have a higher potential for abuse than say lunesta or Ambien.
    If you like the benzodiazepines, I’d look into Atavan, longer half life and better sleep studies.

    2 or 3 mgs of eszopliclone is where I’d start.

    The 3 mgs is notorious for leaving a metallic taste in your mouth the next morning so don’t be alarmed if it happens.

    If that fails, eat a 42 ounce porterhouse,
    …puts me to sleep every time

    Guys will recommend OTC’s and melatonin, for me I’m better off eating a sour patch kid.
    They don’t work a bit…

    Trazadone is my drug of choice for sleep
    Is Eszopiclone as I have that on hand, I may try Trazadone like you mentioned

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    Quote Originally Posted by SampsonandDelilah View Post
    Valium and Xanax are benzodiazepines and although bring on sleep, they have really short half lives and have a tendency for tolerance resulting in insomnia and poor sleep upon discontinuation.
    Trazadone is my drug of choice for sleep
    I agree with the view that having Xanax may lead to addiction resulting in further side effects. I am also in the favor of Trazadone in such cases. You can also order your medicines online from the Canada Drugs website. It is recommended to consult the doctor before taking any pills.
    Last edited by kusum; 08-05-2021 at 07:50 AM.

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