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[Beefcheeks7]

Not trying to be rude but you really need to work on your diet and hit the gym.You don't even look like you have trained.You just don't wake up one morning and say I want to get big so I will get some aas.You have to pay your do"s

I definitely second that your stats tell it all, all you will do jumping on a cycle now is hurt yourself. Train well and eat better and you'll grow.

[Cylon357]

I definitely second that your stats tell it all, all you will do jumping on a cycle now is hurt yourself. Train well and eat better and you'll grow.

OP, if you find a lack of appetite to be a problem, get your hands on some MK677. That increases appetite like you won't believe.

[caeloren]

OP, if you find a lack of appetite to be a problem, get your hands on some MK677. That increases appetite like you won't believe.

Appetite not a problem, metabolism is ridiculously high... Also, I do base my diet around large protein intake... I had my test tested a few months back... Was in the low 500s, forget what the other metric was on the test but there was another number which I think was the free test? Can't remember ide have to find the damn paper.. but yah... My avatar was when I was 16, I'm 34 now lol.. Ill change to avoid misleading

[caeloren]

Let me just add this so nobody gets the wrong impression. Not looking to take some quick shortcut looking to get big quick. But also not looking to spend 3.5 years like I did before and gain 10 or 15lbs worth of muscle mass lol. If I remember correctly I came out of prison at like 170 from 155 average. I ate like I should have, worked out my entire bid. My family sent me all the extra protein I needed in packages. Sardines, Mackeral, Salmon, Squid, Octo, Chicken..etc. Every month I had a 30lb package for 3.5 years straight. I did a lot of reading and hit the weights almost every yard and worked with dudes twice my size. They got some decent gains but I aIways had less impressive results for some reason. I was always with guys who pushed and motivated even on days where I didn't feel like it but they got my ass out in the weight pit. So I wasn't just alone doing some 30min bullshit in the weight pit. For that amount of time working out , you would think I would get some decent gains after 3.5 years. Sure I looked good, cut up... But mass was a huge problem. I know the diet and dedication needed but the days where I dedicate that amount of time for miniscule results are over. If I'ma go at it again 110% like I did before, I'ma make sure Its worth it. However, I am absorbing everything y'all are saying and appreciate the knowledge FOR SURE...just trying to enlighten on the way my body seems to be.. no drugs or alcohol in my diet either... Not since 2013

[caeloren]

I don't think you should go based off someone's base stats. I'm a perfect example of this... I eat usually 5 to 6 meals a day. Last time I worked out was in prison 2 years ago so I will say yes I haven't worked out recently but... Yes we had protein and plenty of food in prison... I lifted everyday out in the yard for 3.5 years straight. My gains were so miniscule it's not even funny. I eat like a horse now and did so then. I can cut up without issue. I stay cut without working out.. it's the mass I have a problem with... My food intake is unnatural for someone who's 5'8 150-160 lbs. I could have included this information before didn't think it was relevant for my specific question... If I didn't have a problem getting some gains over a year period then I probably would have never bothered resorting to this. And I'm talking anywhere from an hour and a half to 2.5hrs workout periods over a 3.5 year period...I've just always been lean and cut.. Just want to make it clear this isn't my first attempt at gaining muscle mass, but since I wsnt to get back into it again, I want it to be measurable and not 15lbs max over 3.5 years

[Beefcheeks7]

I don't think you should go based off someone's base stats. I'm a perfect example of this... I eat usually 5 to 6 meals a day. Last time I worked out was in prison 2 years ago so I will say yes I haven't worked out recently but... Yes we had protein and plenty of food in prison... I lifted everyday out in the yard for 3.5 years straight. My gains were so miniscule it's not even funny. I eat like a horse now and did so then. I can cut up without issue. I stay cut without working out.. it's the mass I have a problem with... My food intake is unnatural for someone who's 5'8 150-160 lbs. I could have included this information before didn't think it was relevant for my specific question... If I didn't have a problem getting some gains over a year period then I probably would have never bothered resorting to this. And I'm talking anywhere from an hour and a half to 2.5hrs workout periods over a 3.5 year period...I've just always been lean and cut.. Just want to make it clear this isn't my first attempt at gaining muscle mass, but since I wsnt to get back into it again, I want it to be measurable and not 15lbs max over 3.5 years

One thing I've learned most people are going to do what they are going to do no matter what anybody else advises them to. I will say that in 3 1/2 years if you had your diet and workouts dialed you could've gained a lot more than it looks like you have. But hey man it's your body if you decide to do it that's fine I just don't think you're going to get all you can out of it. And most people say upstate when they're from California did you go to a California prison?

[caeloren]

One thing I've learned most people are going to do what they are going to do no matter what anybody else advises them to. I will say that in 3 1/2 years if you had your diet and workouts dialed you could've gained a lot more than it looks like you have. But hey man it's your body if you decide to do it that's fine I just don't think you're going to get all you can out of it. And most people say upstate when they're from California did you go to a California prison?

no i live in new york.... but i live upstate new york and the majority of the prisons in this state are up north so we often refer to it as upstate or up north

[caeloren]

no i live in new york.... but i live upstate new york and the majority of the prisons in this state are up north so we often refer to it as upstate or up north

also im not necessarily disagreeing with your statement in regards to workouts... i know my diet was good... that part was honestly the easy part... maybe i was doing too many repetitive workouts... like the same workouts in the weekly rotation?

[Cylon357]

well, when i was upstate a couple years back 1.5hrs on an average session, 3hrs on a long one (less frequent) maybe i made a typo above... nonetheless, now, i work 40 a week yes, on my feet most the day, but want to start back at the gym again and doing what i did upstate... i just know at a certain point when i was upstate i stopped getting gains... im roughly the same size as i was 2 years ago when i came home... so i have a feeling that gaining anymore muscle than what ive already gained is going to be difficult especially now that im 34... i might lean out a bit, gain mass a bit... but the size i am now is the same when i hit a plateau upstate

hmmm... i mean i worked out most days when upstate... nothing else to do... either way, ive decided to give test eth a run as i want better results than ive gotten in the past.. maybe ill try to tweak the way i workout like you said... but this got a bit off topic from my original question

Yes, the thread has taken a turn.

also im not necessarily disagreeing with your statement in regards to workouts... i know my diet was good... that part was honestly the easy part... maybe i was doing too many repetitive workouts... like the same workouts in the weekly rotation?

But now you are rolling with it, likely because you realized folks are here to help, not just tell people what they want to hear.

BTW, that second quote there, you seemed to be replying to yourself...

[caeloren]

Yes, the thread has taken a turn.



But now you are rolling with it, likely because you realized folks are here to help, not just tell people what they want to hear.

BTW, that second quote there, you seemed to be replying to yourself...

My bad on the reply to self... Still trying to figure out the forum formats for quotes and pics and everything.

[Beefcheeks7]

no i live in new york.... but i live upstate new york and the majority of the prisons in this state are up north so we often refer to it as upstate or up north

Oh gotcha I was told no prisons have had weights since the 90s but yea all the working out and sleep you can get I got large there myself without weights.

[Honkey_Kong]

I don't think you should go based off someone's base stats. I'm a perfect example of this... I eat usually 5 to 6 meals a day. Last time I worked out was in prison 2 years ago so I will say yes I haven't worked out recently but... Yes we had protein and plenty of food in prison... I lifted everyday out in the yard for 3.5 years straight. My gains were so miniscule it's not even funny. I eat like a horse now and did so then. I can cut up without issue. I stay cut without working out.. it's the mass I have a problem with... My food intake is unnatural for someone who's 5'8 150-160 lbs. I could have included this information before didn't think it was relevant for my specific question... If I didn't have a problem getting some gains over a year period then I probably would have never bothered resorting to this. And I'm talking anywhere from an hour and a half to 2.5hrs workout periods over a 3.5 year period...I've just always been lean and cut.. Just want to make it clear this isn't my first attempt at gaining muscle mass, but since I wsnt to get back into it again, I want it to be measurable and not 15lbs max over 3.5 years

I've heard this story a million fvuking times on here. Some guy who is scrawny and can't gain claims to eat "like a horse." You don't have to convince anyone here that you're some sort of exception. The fact is whatever you're eating (or think you're eating) isn't enough to gain weight. It's that fvuking simple. Now either take people's advice and eat more or don't. You're not going to like the results if you don't eat enough to grow and after the cycle is over you're going to probably end up worse than where you care currently.

Facts don't care about your feelings nor do they care about your excuses.