TRT question

[teedoff]

With respect to all, I disagree. I have had GREAT results with gels and can take my T to whatever level I want to with it. You don't need to pin it to get results - its the SAME testosterone! Repeat: It's the SAME testosterone. Eight years running and I have never had a problem with any of my bloodwork (at all) and it has never "waned". And who cares if pharma makes money on it? Just saying, it shouldn't be discounted just because it's not being injected. Personally, I think it's a great BASE even for those using injectable AAS. And it's daily so no peaks/troughs.

I can tell you what I experienced. Gel for 2 years at one pump a day. Had blood work done by a urologist and my test was around 300. He suggested I double the dose to two pumps or switch to injections. I did two pumps a day for a month or so before going to a hormone clinic and switching to injections.

[Zenpump]

I can tell you what I experienced. Gel for 2 years at one pump a day. Had blood work done by a urologist and my test was around 300. He suggested I double the dose to two pumps or switch to injections. I did two pumps a day for a month or so before going to a hormone clinic and switching to injections.

This is a prime example of misuse/understanding! 1 pump per day? Thats definitely not enough! If 1 pump got you to 300, then 2 would have put you 450-500 ( guestimating). 3 pumps would have been 650-800 (guestimating) and 4 pumps over 1000 (its not linear).

Why did you not get tested after migrating to 2 pumps when a single pump put you at the low end of normal?

The gel makers themselves suggest up to 4 pumps daily.

[teedoff]

This is a prime example of misuse/understanding! 1 pump per day? Thats definitely not enough! If 1 pump got you to 300, then 2 would have put you 450-500 ( guestimating). 3 pumps would have been 650-800 (guestimating) and 4 pumps over 1000 (its not linear).

Why did you not get tested after migrating to 2 pumps when a single pump put you at the low end of normal?

The gel makers themselves suggest up to 4 pumps daily.

Not enough according to whom? Thats what my Dr prescribed. One pump a day...worked fine for almost 2 years until it didnt work any longer. One pump got me to around 700. Have all my labs from the last 4 years to prove it. Then for some reason, the labs I had done at my urologist, my test was 300 again. Perhaps it was drawn on different days, but he's the one that suggested I do 2 pumps which I did for about 2 months before just switching to injections.

Just got labs done 2 weeks ago on Friday morning. My injections are on Saturday or Sunday as I forget sometimes. This lab my test was 800+ on 100mg/week.

[Zenpump]

Not enough according to whom? Thats what my Dr prescribed. One pump a day...worked fine for almost 2 years until it didnt work any longer. One pump got me to around 700. Have all my labs from the last 4 years to prove it. Then for some reason, the labs I had done at my urologist, my test was 300 again. Perhaps it was drawn on different days, but he's the one that suggested I do 2 pumps which I did for about 2 months before just switching to injections.

Just got labs done 2 weeks ago on Friday morning. My injections are on Saturday or Sunday as I forget sometimes. This lab my test was 800+ on 100mg/week.

Did you get bloods after switching to 2 pumps?

I never said injections dont work - I just said gels do and have for me for 8+ years. All respect...we should probably move on at this point!!

[Honkey_Kong]

This is a prime example of misuse/understanding! 1 pump per day? Thats definitely not enough! If 1 pump got you to 300, then 2 would have put you 450-500 ( guestimating). 3 pumps would have been 650-800 (guestimating) and 4 pumps over 1000 (its not linear).

Why did you not get tested after migrating to 2 pumps when a single pump put you at the low end of normal?

The gel makers themselves suggest up to 4 pumps daily.

Some guys have skin that better absorbs the testosterone than others. And over time the absorption rate can change for some people as their skin conditions can change. My real gripe with the gels and cream are that you have to be careful about making physical contact with your wife/girlfriend before they totally gel. Plus if you have young kids that's another factor.

That and injecting is one or two times a week (depending on your protocol) and then you don't have to worry about it at all.

[Zenpump]

Some guys have skin that better absorbs the testosterone than others. And over time the absorption rate can change for some people as their skin conditions can change. My real gripe with the gels and cream are that you have to be careful about making physical contact with your wife/girlfriend before they totally gel. Plus if you have young kids that's another factor.

That and injecting is one or two times a week (depending on your protocol) and then you don't have to worry about it at all.

All true