Gear and Keto

[Cuz]

To me its a no go for a bulk. Its fine for a cut, although im not a fan of replacing fats with carbs. Trying to bulk on a keto diet you would have to have enough calories to be in a surplus which is minimum 500 cals over maintenance and to get that with someone like me is just not healthy way too much protein is hell on the kidneys and that much fat would not be a good ideo on the cardiovascular system. I personally would never do it but to each their own. Someone say 180lbs could probably do it and be ok.

[Zenpump]

To me its a no go for a bulk. Its fine for a cut, although im not a fan of replacing fats with carbs. Trying to bulk on a keto diet you would have to have enough calories to be in a surplus which is minimum 500 cals over maintenance and to get that with someone like me is just not healthy way too much protein is hell on the kidneys and that much fat would not be a good ideo on the cardiovascular system. I personally would never do it but to each their own. Someone say 180lbs could probably do it and be ok.

You're eating the same amountnof protein you normally would...you're just cutting the carbs and adding more low carb selections such as vegetables

[Cuz]

You're eating the same amountnof protein you normally would...you're just cutting the carbs and adding more low carb selections such as vegetables

Keto is 25g of carbs or less. Like I said if a bodybuilder thats 250lbs and is eating 5000 cals a day, how would one consume so much protein and fat with only 25g of carbs a day to stay in ketosis deem healthy? Thats no bodybuilder would ever use it. Again, a small guy can get away with it or someone trying to lose weight and look skinny fat

[Zenpump]

Keto is 25g of carbs or less. Like I said if a bodybuilder thats 250lbs and is eating 5000 cals a day, how would one consume so much protein and fat with only 25g of carbs a day to stay in ketosis deem healthy? Thats no bodybuilder would ever use it. Again, a small guy can get away with it or someone trying to lose weight and look skinny fat

No, maintenance on Keto can be as high as 80-100g per day, depending on the individual. In Keto, you get 60-70% of your calories from fats, which your body has now been conditioned to burn for energy (along with the fat on your body!). It really stokes your body into becoming a fat burning machine. I can't imagine cutting up as a 250 lb guy (I am one) while eating 5000 calories a day unless I am relying heavily on multiple drugs (Healthier than managing for fat intake?). As far as health goes, which is better? You have to decide. Its not for everyone. Its not all the time. If you're a top pro trying to win the Olympia and using massive gear probably not. If you're a guy that wants to look their best while trying to utilize dietary tricks as well as other non-drug hacks to maximize your gear and minimize the amount of gear needed, consider it.

If you've never tried it, when done right you get steroid-like results in terms on the change you will see in your body. I lost 30 lbs in 30 days one time and was never more ripped. And no, you wont look skinny fat because there wont be any fat left. Keto is another tool in your toolbox and many experts, even guys like Thibaudeux agree that it is effective. Anyone can take gear, eat 5000 calories a day and get "big". I have always found, as a minimalist AAS user, I have to use other hacks such as dietary tricks to get the look I want.

[Cuz]

No, maintenance on Keto can be as high as 80-100g per day, depending on the individual. In Keto, you get 60-70% of your calories from fats, which your body has now been conditioned to burn for energy (along with the fat on your body!). It really stokes your body into becoming a fat burning machine. I can't imagine cutting up as a 250 lb guy (I am one) while eating 5000 calories a day unless I am relying heavily on multiple drugs (Healthier than managing for fat intake?). As far as health goes, which is better? You have to decide. Its not for everyone. Its not all the time. If you're a top pro trying to win the Olympia and using massive gear probably not. If you're a guy that wants to look their best while trying to utilize dietary tricks as well as other non-drug hacks to maximize your gear and minimize the amount of gear needed, consider it.

If you've never tried it, when done right you get steroid-like results in terms on the change you will see in your body. I lost 30 lbs in 30 days one time and was never more ripped. And no, you wont look skinny fat because there wont be any fat left. Keto is another tool in your toolbox and many experts, even guys like Thibaudeux agree that it is effective. Anyone can take gear, eat 5000 calories a day and get "big". I have always found, as a minimalist AAS user, I have to use other hacks such as dietary tricks to get the look I want.

Bro, I know my nutrition. Im talking bodybuilding not crossfit. Sure, go get on keto for that shit. You aint schooling me on that. And no, anyone cant get big. If it was that simple then my gym would be full of fucking 250 lb lean monsters instead of old dudes that want to chit chat and kids on cell phones. Keep telling yourself that 100 g of carbs per day is keto. Its not. You’re the same nut that said you gain 30lb of 200 mg of deca lol

[Zenpump]

Bro, I know my nutrition. Im talking bodybuilding not crossfit. Sure, go get on keto for that shit. You aint schooling me on that. And no, anyone cant get big. If it was that simple then my gym would be full of fucking 250 lb lean monsters instead of old dudes that want to chit chat and kids on cell phones. Keep telling yourself that 100 g of carbs per day is keto. Its not. You’re the same nut that said you gain 30lb of 200 mg of deca lol

Sure did! First cycle 200mg Deca and 20mg/Day Var. 30 lbs easy. And please dont kid yourself, I could grab ANYONE off the street, give them 200 mg per week Deca, 20 mg Var per day AND feed them 5,000 calories a day and in 10 weeks they would have gained at least 8-12% bodyweight. Easy.

Besides, what are you arguing about? I said its another tool on the toolbox. Can you get bigger eating 5,000 calories and all the carbs you want? Yes, but its a question on body composition and the amount of drugs you need to do it.

[Honkey_Kong]

Bro, I know my nutrition. Im talking bodybuilding not crossfit. Sure, go get on keto for that shit. You aint schooling me on that. And no, anyone cant get big. If it was that simple then my gym would be full of fucking 250 lb lean monsters instead of old dudes that want to chit chat and kids on cell phones. Keep telling yourself that 100 g of carbs per day is keto. Its not. You’re the same nut that said you gain 30lb of 200 mg of deca lol

I really doubt crossfitters would do well on the keto fad either. They need carbs to do that shit. They might be able to do it for a week or two, but they'll be noticing their energy level going down and they won't be able to do as many reps or as much weight either.

I hypothesize that a keto diet will be a contributing factor to organ damage and failure in the long term. Not to mention it'll impede performance. And if you're trying to build muscle and strength you to be at your peak performance. So I doubt very many serious lifters or athletes in general can do keto for very long.

[Cuz]

I really doubt crossfitters would do well on the keto fad either. They need carbs to do that shit. They might be able to do it for a week or two, but they'll be noticing their energy level going down and they won't be able to do as many reps or as much weight either.

I hypothesize that a keto diet will be a contributing factor to organ damage and failure in the long term. Not to mention it'll impede performance. And if you're trying to build muscle and strength you to be at your peak performance. So I doubt very many serious lifters or athletes in general can do keto for very long.

Just a fad diet imo. Its a big seller. Quick weight loss is what people want they dont wanna work or change their lifestyle so alot of companies market that keto. But it aint worth a fuck for building muscle in the offseason