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    Most of the ammo is being limited now im seeing. Mostly bulk sales . Shot the 300 and 308 today. Way off on the 308. Was shooting around 250 yards. Im rbc is high and i have trouble being still. Couldnt get my breathing right. Horrible grouping. I was much more accurate with the bolt 300 than the AR 10. The stock on the AR just isnt long enough for me to get comfortable. It sure looks nice though.
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    Also not tryin to knock vortex but it doesnt come close to zeiss glass

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuz View Post
    Most of the ammo is being limited now im seeing. Mostly bulk sales . Shot the 300 and 308 today. Way off on the 308. Was shooting around 250 yards. Im rbc is high and i have trouble being still. Couldnt get my breathing right. Horrible grouping. I was much more accurate with the bolt 300 than the AR 10. The stock on the AR just isnt long enough for me to get comfortable. It sure looks nice though.
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    Also not tryin to knock vortex but it doesnt come close to zeiss glass
    That's the way I feel about Leupold. I'll look at Swarovski ( waaay overpriced IMHO), Vortex, etc. and think it's pretty good, but then when I look through a Leupold, I'm sold on Leupold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuz View Post
    Most of the ammo is being limited now im seeing. Mostly bulk sales . Shot the 300 and 308 today. Way off on the 308. Was shooting around 250 yards. Im rbc is high and i have trouble being still. Couldnt get my breathing right. Horrible grouping. I was much more accurate with the bolt 300 than the AR 10. The stock on the AR just isnt long enough for me to get comfortable. It sure looks nice though.
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    Also not tryin to knock vortex but it doesnt come close to zeiss glass
    nice rifle man, what are the specs on it?

    Quote Originally Posted by almostgone View Post
    That's the way I feel about Leupold. I'll look at Swarovski ( waaay overpriced IMHO), Vortex, etc. and think it's pretty good, but then when I look through a Leupold, I'm sold on Leupold.
    i have a limited knowledge of optics, but the few that i have are mostly ACOG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JTP$ View Post
    nice rifle man, what are the specs on it?



    i have a limited knowledge of optics, but the few that i have are mostly ACOG.
    Zeiss is good glass. I'm partial to Leupold. Swarovski is overrated IMHO.

    Trijicon ACOG are durable and well worth the price. For those that don't want to shell out the $$ for Triji, Primary Arms make decent lower end scopes if you're looking for something with a decent horseshoe 5.56 or 7.62: BDC reticle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by almostgone View Post
    Zeiss is good glass. I'm partial to Leupold. Swarovski is overrated IMHO.

    Trijicon ACOG are durable and well worth the price. For those that don't want to shell out the $$ for Triji, Primary Arms make decent lower end scopes if you're looking for something with a decent horseshoe 5.56 or 7.62: BDC reticle.
    ive heard good things about leupold, but nothing about zeiss or swarovski. the reliability of ACOG is what really got me interested in them though, plus the photovoltaic strip for never ending reticle illumination and the clarity of glass is perfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JTP$ View Post
    ive heard good things about leupold, but nothing about zeiss or swarovski. the reliability of ACOG is what really got me interested in them though, plus the photovoltaic strip for never ending reticle illumination and the clarity of glass is perfect.
    The acog is on my list of scopes to own. I have a trij reflex on my 5.56 but i dont like the amber reticle. Id rather it be green. I dont own a leupold yet but i do own zeiss swarovski and vortex and zeiss is my favorite of the three.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JTP$ View Post
    nice rifle man, what are the specs on it?



    i have a limited knowledge of optics, but the few that i have are mostly ACOG.

    Nothing fancy at all. .308 16” barrel. Just a diamondback upper and lower magpul grips stock and bipod, ultradyne brake, 4-14 x44 vortex viper scope. Vortex one piece base which is overpriced imo wouldnt rebuy it.

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    Nothing fancy at all. .308 16” barrel. Just a diamondback upper and lower magpul grips stock and bipod, ultradyne brake, 4-14 x44 vortex viper scope. Vortex one piece base which is overpriced imo wouldnt rebuy it.
    Nice. I bought a cheap scope to throw on my rifle when I bought it. Need to upgrade mine. I'm looking at leupold or acog. Have a buddy that owns a gun store and gets me good deals.

    He also has a website for ammo and can usually find or already stocks some hard to find srifd if you guys ever have need.

    Here's my cowardly ar. Just a plain Jane right now with the cheap scope. lol

    Also the 12g bulldog I picked up a couple months ago. Added a forward grip light for night time intruders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teedoff View Post
    Nice. I bought a cheap scope to throw on my rifle when I bought it. Need to upgrade mine. I'm looking at leupold or acog. Have a buddy that owns a gun store and gets me good deals.

    He also has a website for ammo and can usually find or already stocks some hard to find srifd if you guys ever have need.

    Here's my cowardly ar. Just a plain Jane right now with the cheap scope. lol

    Also the 12g bulldog I picked up a couple months ago. Added a forward grip light for night time intruders.

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    Sweet
    I have the same style barrel on my sw 5.56 i just ordered a full rail upper from midway bc they were on sale for 199 should be in tomorrow it was a have to thing since it was so cheap

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuz View Post
    Sweet
    I have the same style barrel on my sw 5.56 i just ordered a full rail upper from midway bc they were on sale for 199 should be in tomorrow it was a have to thing since it was so cheap
    Yeah I had my rails put on when I bought the rifle. I think i got those for about 50 bucks. The rifle is an american tactical brand i think.

    Not sure I'm crazy about that forward grip. It's rather large, but it has a bipod that pops out so that's cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuz View Post
    The acog is on my list of scopes to own. I have a trij reflex on my 5.56 but i dont like the amber reticle. Id rather it be green. I dont own a leupold yet but i do own zeiss swarovski and vortex and zeiss is my favorite of the three.
    you really cant go wrong with acogs, only potential drawback being fixed magnification. the simplicity is what adds to the reliability and makes them more of a combat optic than marksmanship. one thing to keep in mind though is that the TA 31 has a very limited eye relief which is fine for 5.56, but it may be a problem for .308

    ill have to look into these other options of brands and models for my other rifles. i think a good quality 20x optic would be alot of fun

    Quote Originally Posted by Cuz View Post
    Nothing fancy at all. .308 16” barrel. Just a diamondback upper and lower magpul grips stock and bipod, ultradyne brake, 4-14 x44 vortex viper scope. Vortex one piece base which is overpriced imo wouldnt rebuy it.
    im unfamiliar with diamond back, but good quality, less expensive brands are always a good choice with firearms. no need to spend $8,000 on an HK MR762 when you can get something equivalent for considerably less money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JTP$ View Post
    you really cant go wrong with acogs, only potential drawback being fixed magnification. the simplicity is what adds to the reliability and makes them more of a combat optic than marksmanship. one thing to keep in mind though is that the TA 31 has a very limited eye relief which is fine for 5.56, but it may be a problem for .308

    ill have to look into these other options of brands and models for my other rifles. i think a good quality 20x optic would be alot of fun



    im unfamiliar with diamond back, but good quality, less expensive brands are always a good choice with firearms. no need to spend $8,000 on an HK MR762 when you can get something equivalent for considerably less money.
    I have a fixed 4x on my crossbow and it doenst really bother me to bad. I want the acog with the holographic red dot mounted on top for quick target acquisition along with the main optic for precision. And the 308 with a big brake really isnt much recoil I think an acog would be fine

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuz View Post
    Most of the ammo is being limited now im seeing. Mostly bulk sales . Shot the 300 and 308 today. Way off on the 308. Was shooting around 250 yards. Im rbc is high and i have trouble being still. Couldnt get my breathing right. Horrible grouping. I was much more accurate with the bolt 300 than the AR 10. The stock on the AR just isnt long enough for me to get comfortable. It sure looks nice though.
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    Also not tryin to knock vortex but it doesnt come close to zeiss glass
    Nice gun. Is that muzzle break standard?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuz View Post
    Most of the ammo is being limited now im seeing. Mostly bulk sales . Shot the 300 and 308 today. Way off on the 308. Was shooting around 250 yards. Im rbc is high and i have trouble being still. Couldnt get my breathing right. Horrible grouping. I was much more accurate with the bolt 300 than the AR 10. The stock on the AR just isnt long enough for me to get comfortable. It sure looks nice though.
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    Also not tryin to knock vortex but it doesnt come close to zeiss glass
    Yeah, when your blood count is high, it can really give you the gasping type of breath and it's hard to find your natural respiratory pause.

    Sometimes, a few minutes of box breathing after I get prone will ease things up to the point I can find my sweet spot to squeeze off a round.

    Re: the Ar-10. It's hard to tell with the charging handle to the rear, but that length of pull does look at tad short. Again, it's hard to tell from a pic. If you dropped your scope rearward a tad, do you think it would help you out?

    Edit: My eyes are just starting to focus. Is that an offset scope mount?
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    Quote Originally Posted by stocky121 View Post
    Nice gun. Is that muzzle break standard?
    Sorry I’m not massively clued up about guns.
    That particular brake isn’t standard its an ultradyne tank break. Helps recoil but the blast is pushed outward instead of back through the stock (the energy of the recoil) its great but if anyone is standing nearby they can feel the energy from the blast in their chests. It’s pretty extreme.


    Quote Originally Posted by almostgone View Post
    Yeah, when your blood count is high, it can really give you the gasping type of breath and it's hard to find your natural respiratory pause.

    Sometimes, a few minutes of box breathing after I get prone will ease things up to the point I can find my sweet spot to squeeze off a round.

    Re: the Ar-10. It's hard to tell with the charging handle to the rear, but that length of pull does look at tad short. Again, it's hard to tell from a pic. If you dropped your scope rearward a tad, do you think it would help you out?

    Edit: My eyes are just starting to focus. Is that an offset scope mount?
    Nope just a standard vortex one piece picatinny rail mount. I believe you are correct, it does need to forward. The eye relief is a bit off

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuz View Post
    That particular brake isn’t standard its an ultradyne tank break. Helps recoil but the blast is pushed outward instead of back through the stock (the energy of the recoil) its great but if anyone is standing nearby they can feel the energy from the blast in their chests. It’s pretty extreme.




    Nope just a standard vortex one piece picatinny rail mount. I believe you are correct, it does need to forward. The eye relief is a bit off
    It certainly looks it, looks badass. The kind you see on the top of howitzers.
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