You'll want to read this!

[Ronnie Rowland]

Hey Ron, how does this look for a 5 day split doing the slingshot training.

Mon. Chest
Tues. Back
Wed. Off
Thurs. Shoulders , traps
Fri. Bis, tris, forearms
Sat. Legs
Sun. Off

I do 12 intense sets for each muscle group

It's my favorite 5 day training split!

[>Good Luck<]

Hey ron, what do you think:

Week 1-8 test e 350mg tren e 200mg
Week 9-10 test e 200mg

Week 11-18 test 350mg tren e 200mg tbol 75mg per day
Week 19-20 test e 200mg

nolv 20mg daily 4 weeks hcg 2500iu eod for 3 weeks starting 1 week after last pin

[montana3]

Great post, for a beginner it was exactly what I was looking for thank you!
Question:
I’ve been on testosterone therapy for sometime and though it’s made me feel great my gains in the gym have slowed considerably. (slowed) For this reason, I wanted to incorporate tren along with my test C for eight weeks to help me add more size.
However, I’m not real sure how much trenbolone, (or if tren is good) to take and can I sill use HCG during the cycle.
Any info you can give would be greatly appreciated.
Mike

[Trenaholic]

very informative,thank you.

[VASCULAR VINCE]

ron... modes on cardio equiopment accurate????

[The Titan99]

There he is. Vincent Neil Anderson. 4.2 kg (9.25 lbs). Born August 4th. I haven't eaten a decent meal in a week. Pizza's and bags of KFC. Not good. The baby's great though and so is Da.

[lla23]

Congrats bro !!!

There he is. Vincent Neil Anderson. 4.2 kg (9.25 lbs). Born August 4th. I haven't eaten a decent meal in a week. Pizza's and bags of KFC. Not good. The baby's great though and so is Da.

[slimshady01]

There he is. Vincent Neil Anderson. 4.2 kg (9.25 lbs). Born August 4th. I haven't eaten a decent meal in a week. Pizza's and bags of KFC. Not good. The baby's great though and so is Da.

Holy cow bro congrats!!!!

[Yellow]

There he is. Vincent Neil Anderson. 4.2 kg (9.25 lbs). Born August 4th. I haven't eaten a decent meal in a week. Pizza's and bags of KFC. Not good. The baby's great though and so is Da.

Congratulations for the baby born, bro!!

[The Titan99]

Thanks a lot guy's.

[Ronnie Rowland]

There he is. Vincent Neil Anderson. 4.2 kg (9.25 lbs). Born August 4th. I haven't eaten a decent meal in a week. Pizza's and bags of KFC. Not good. The baby's great though and so is Da.

I LOVE IT! Congrats to the both of you....

[ppwc1985]

Congrats Titan

[Trevtrev]

Ronny,

Do you think an 8 week cycle is best for a first time cycle or does this only apply to someone intending to follow your load/deload/load...?

[Ronnie Rowland]

Ronny,

Do you think an 8 week cycle is best for a first time cycle or does this only apply to someone intending to follow your load/deload/load...?

A 20 week Slingshot cycle gives the enter results for a beginner than 8 weeks.

[Ronnie Rowland]

Ronny,

Do you think an 8 week cycle is best for a first time cycle or does this only apply to someone intending to follow your load/deload/load...?

An 8 week cycle will work but a 20 week slingshot cycle works better because it gives you more time to build with virgin receptor sites and more time for the body to adapt to holding onto the extra mass gains- hence more muscle will be maintained post cycle given hcg or hmg is used during pct.

[Arnoldtobe]

Staying on all the time won't cause "bitch tits"? I thought ur body needs pct and time to get naturally producing testosterone to prevent this.

[Ronnie Rowland]

Staying on all the time won't cause "bitch tits"? I thought ur body needs pct and time to get naturally producing testosterone to prevent this.

Bitch tits are more readily obtained by hormonal fluctuations and so is some forms of cancer! For those who are older and or finished having kids, the chances of getting bitch tits are less when you stay on and allow your body to adapt.

[CJ1776]

My question in new member form:...Started cycle and having some issues... your help is appreciated

That's my question forum ( I really need a few questions answered if you can be of any help, Thanks)...

Here it is again:
I am 45 yrs and started with Test (sus) 1cc/ml and in same stick using Tren at .5cc/ml.... twice per week (started last week)

Second week on.

After my workout partner and I both did same and Pinned ourselves in the Quad Muscle; within 2 days we both developed pain and some muscle swelling below where we Pinned just above the knee in The muscle. Felt like our muscle was swelling and sore (as if it had been worked out). We did not do any leg work out yet.

Next time we did other Quad with same amounts and this time it was severely worse. So the 3rd time we did it back in the same leg as the 1st time. My workout partner is experiencing some pain today (stuck yesterday). I am doing fine now but starting to fell some slight pain.

Okay, so with that info,... what is going on?... Is this normal?
We where worried about moving to the arms or buttock to Stick yet.....
I did Test (Sus) only (1 cycle) 12 years ago with no pain or problems, but only Pinned in my Buttock.


Also, should we be using the same needle to stack Test (Sus) and the Tren?

Any recommendations and knowledge will be extremely helpful.



Also, what are the storage requirements after opening the Bottle... Refrigerate or room temperature?


Thanks,
CJ

[TestAce]

Hey Ronnie, what is your opinion in regards to the use of an AI during a 20 week slingshot? Would you say Aromasin at about 12.5mg every day for the full 20 weeks is ok to do? I'm currently on a 20 week slingshot (in my 5th week now) and having been using Aromasin at 12.5mg a day since week 2.

[Ronnie Rowland]

My question in new member form:...Started cycle and having some issues... your help is appreciated

That's my question forum ( I really need a few questions answered if you can be of any help, Thanks)...

Here it is again:
I am 45 yrs and started with Test (sus) 1cc/ml and in same stick using Tren at .5cc/ml.... twice per week (started last week)

Second week on.

After my workout partner and I both did same and Pinned ourselves in the Quad Muscle; within 2 days we both developed pain and some muscle swelling below where we Pinned just above the knee in The muscle. Felt like our muscle was swelling and sore (as if it had been worked out). We did not do any leg work out yet.

Next time we did other Quad with same amounts and this time it was severely worse. So the 3rd time we did it back in the same leg as the 1st time. My workout partner is experiencing some pain today (stuck yesterday). I am doing fine now but starting to fell some slight pain.

Okay, so with that info,... what is going on?... Is this normal?
We where worried about moving to the arms or buttock to Stick yet.....
I did Test (Sus) only (1 cycle) 12 years ago with no pain or problems, but only Pinned in my Buttock.


Also, should we be using the same needle to stack Test (Sus) and the Tren?

Any recommendations and knowledge will be extremely helpful.



Also, what are the storage requirements after opening the Bottle... Refrigerate or room temperature?


Thanks,
CJ

Pinning in the quadriceps cripples a lot of people. Do pec,shoulder and hip injections instead.

[mockery]

hey Ronnie, your advice on shoulder rehab with the lifestyle cables and decline hammer strength helped so much and really worked.

curious if you had any opinion or advice on brachialis anticus pain. and how to fix it?

*deep tissue massage helps for 2-3 days no pain, then it comes back.

*its the little things that hurt it the most, trying to take lids off buckets, trying to move the waist band on my trck suit pants to piss or take them off kills.

* started using straps for teh first time in my life and has helped tenfold

* laterial raises kill it, but the nautilus side raise machine from the 70/80s dont hurt it at all...

* wide grip curls or concentration curls dont bother it

*reverse triceps pushdowns hurt it unless i strap up


any advice you can suggest would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

[Ronnie Rowland]

hey Ronnie, your advice on shoulder rehab with the lifestyle cables and decline hammer strength helped so much and really worked.

curious if you had any opinion or advice on brachialis anticus pain. and how to fix it?

*deep tissue massage helps for 2-3 days no pain, then it comes back.

*its the little things that hurt it the most, trying to take lids off buckets, trying to move the waist band on my trck suit pants to piss or take them off kills.

* started using straps for teh first time in my life and has helped tenfold

* laterial raises kill it, but the nautilus side raise machine from the 70/80s dont hurt it at all...

* wide grip curls or concentration curls dont bother it

*reverse triceps pushdowns hurt it unless i strap up


any advice you can suggest would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

Continue with deep tissue massage to break down scar tissue buil-up. Avoid all offending movements and do more high rep warm up sets or body parts involving the inflammed area. It can take up to a year to get over this kind of tendinitis. Don't try and work through the pain on exercises that are not user friendly because it could turn into tendonosis were the inside of the tendon becomes compromised!

[Ronnie Rowland]

hey Ronnie, your advice on shoulder rehab with the lifestyle cables and decline hammer strength helped so much and really worked.

curious if you had any opinion or advice on brachialis anticus pain. and how to fix it?

*deep tissue massage helps for 2-3 days no pain, then it comes back.

*its the little things that hurt it the most, trying to take lids off buckets, trying to move the waist band on my trck suit pants to piss or take them off kills.

* started using straps for teh first time in my life and has helped tenfold

* laterial raises kill it, but the nautilus side raise machine from the 70/80s dont hurt it at all...

* wide grip curls or concentration curls dont bother it

*reverse triceps pushdowns hurt it unless i strap up


any advice you can suggest would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

get some adjustable futuro elbow wraps for tendonitus as well. They work great when tightened down during work sets. Cable work can also be great.

[Dimebag1982]

Would the slingshot training system work when you're not cycling steroids?

I'm going to be training clean for a while and I'm trying to find out what a solid system is to read up on and get stuck into - can you reccommend one if slingshot is targeted at candidates on gear? Thanks!

[Ronnie Rowland]

Would the slingshot training system work when you're not cycling steroids?

I'm going to be training clean for a while and I'm trying to find out what a solid system is to read up on and get stuck into - can you reccommend one if slingshot is targeted at candidates on gear? Thanks!

Slingshot works great for natural bodybuilders. Everyone needs proper periodization incorporated into their workouts to prevent over- training.

[Sathane]

I'll have to reread this later.

[diesel808]

Hey ronnie just coming off a pretty lengthy cycle wanting to give this slingshot theory a try. Even tho I'm coming a blast going into a cruise would the 2 week deload still be enough time off for me? Cycle consisted

20 week
750 mg test
400mg deca

Felt tho that my gear was severely underdosed, also this is not my first cycle. Looking to do about the same doses with another brand for this method.

Another question I had was about the 2 week priming phase befor the reload. If I'm using 250mg for the 2 week deload would my dose stay at 250 mg a week during the priming phase or would I start my reload phase with the test and deca, the first 2 weeks being the priming phase.

Thanks ronnie like everyone stated awsome information, wish I had found this when I first had started feels like I'm learning all over again lol.

[Ronnie Rowland]

Hey ronnie just coming off a pretty lengthy cycle wanting to give this slingshot theory a try. Even tho I'm coming a blast going into a cruise would the 2 week deload still be enough time off for me? Cycle consisted

20 week
750 mg test
400mg deca

Felt tho that my gear was severely underdosed, also this is not my first cycle. Looking to do about the same doses with another brand for this method.

Another question I had was about the 2 week priming phase befor the reload. If I'm using 250mg for the 2 week deload would my dose stay at 250 mg a week during the priming phase or would I start my reload phase with the test and deca, the first 2 weeks being the priming phase.

Thanks ronnie like everyone stated awsome information, wish I had found this when I first had started feels like I'm learning all over again lol.

a priming phase entails coming off all anabolics. Since your gear was way under dosed I would jump straight into a 20 week Slingshot cycle using a different brand of gear this time around. Forget a prime.

[diesel808]

a priming phase entails coming off all anabolics. Since your gear was way under dosed I would jump straight into a 20 week Slingshot cycle using a different brand of gear this time around. Forget a prime.

Ok thanks ronnie

[MFM]

Hello my friend,

1st cycle 12 weeks test e 350mg - deca 200 mg
2nd cycle 12 weeks test e 125 mg - tren a 75 mg eod - winni 50 mg ed

I'm starting my 3rd cycle next week
29 y
179 cm
80 kg
14 %
Goal is to get as much lean muscles as possible while trying to make my bf around 5 %

And the plan is to run a 16 week cycle

1-16 test e 125 mg ew
1-4 anadrol 50 mg ed
1-14 tren e 400 mg ew (with bromocriptine)
11-16 winni 50 mg ed (oral)
13-16 var 50 mg ed
9-16 hcg 3000iu ew

PCT nolva and clomid

The diet is gonna be around 3500 cal, 350,250,80

1. Do you think my goal is reasonable?
2. Is it a good idea to train each body part twice a week?
3. I'm thinking of drop-sets using maximum weights during cycle, do you recommend that or you got other suggestions?
4. I'm thinking of starting the cycle with t3 and clen to help me lose more fat, what do you think?
5. How to avoid getting bloated from anadrol, should I run nolva with it?
6. Should I run nolva with HCG?
7. Would be better to remove winni and run anavar for 6 weeks instead of 4, or just keep it this way and use them both?

[base4291ball]

Best read since joining this forum, thanks Ronnie.

[Crazy Chris]

Hey Ron,

I read your advice to "Norway84" to stay on masteron during deloads.
I have a reload coming up consisting of
1000 mg Test C
1000 mg Mast E

During my deload, should I take 1 ml each of Test and Mast, or do you mean to keep ALL of the Mast?

I've heard that Mast is best to run for longer periods, so it makes a lot of sense to keep the Mast during deloads!

Thanks brother.

[Ronnie Rowland]

Hey Ron,

I read your advice to "Norway84" to stay on masteron during deloads.
I have a reload coming up consisting of
1000 mg Test C
1000 mg Mast E

During my deload, should I take 1 ml each of Test and Mast, or do you mean to keep ALL of the Mast?

I've heard that Mast is best to run for longer periods, so it makes a lot of sense to keep the Mast during deloads!

Thanks brother.

Most prefer to mix the test and mast in one shot.

[Crazy Chris]

Most prefer to mix the test and mast in one shot.

Yeah, I allways mix them in one shot.
But I was more wondering about the deload protocoll for mast. If I take 1 ml of test ew during deloads, should I take the same amount of mast?
This would mean you could stay on mast year round, right?

[Thibodeauxdj21]

Hello,

1st/2nd cycle sust 250 ew for 10 weeks.
3rd cycle test e 250 ew and eq 300 ew for 10 weeks.
4th cycle test e 500 ew and eq 600 ew weeks 1-10 and whinny 50 eod weeks 8-12.

I'm planing on doing my 5th cycle and wanted some ideas of what would be the best stack to gaing as much lean mass that will stay on. My last cycle was 5 months ago I've never had problems with side effects.

28 years old
5'9
170lbs
Around 8% bf
I've been working out for the last 10 years off and on.

[Ronnie Rowland]

Hello,

1st/2nd cycle sust 250 ew for 10 weeks.
3rd cycle test e 250 ew and eq 300 ew for 10 weeks.
4th cycle test e 500 ew and eq 600 ew weeks 1-10 and whinny 50 eod weeks 8-12.

I'm planing on doing my 5th cycle and wanted some ideas of what would be the best stack to gaing as much lean mass that will stay on. My last cycle was 5 months ago I've never had problems with side effects.

28 years old
5'9
170lbs
Around 8% bf
I've been working out for the last 10 years off and on.

Test, winstrol and masteron is a good cycle. Even better with GH thrown into the mix. Use 750 mgs of test weekly, 3-400 mgs of masteron and 50 mgs of winstrol daily.

[zkzkzkz]

great post

[The Titan99]

Hey Ron, long time no talk. I've been busy as hell as you can imagine!! You too I take it. I was wondering what you thought about giving Da some HGH. Is it wise while breast feeding? How much to start with? As you can imagine the 10 lb. baby didn't do her body any favors.

[Ronnie Rowland]

Hey Ron, long time no talk. I've been busy as hell as you can imagine!! You too I take it. I was wondering what you thought about giving Da some HGH. Is it wise while breast feeding? How much to start with? As you can imagine the 10 lb. baby didn't do her body any favors.

Don't give her anything while she is breast feeding. She's just going to have to ride out the storm. She can start GH after breast feeding is over with. No one knows what it could do to the baby so better safe than sorry.

[The Titan99]

Don't give her anything while she is breast feeding. She's just going to have to ride out the storm. She can start GH after breast feeding is over with. No one knows what it could do to the baby so better safe than sorry.

Thanks Ron. Of course your right. Even if it was safe, the chances of a supplier turning bad and selling fakes and what they might contain makes it a scary prospect indeed. She will just have to hang in there with the diet and training for now. There will be plenty of time afterwards for the next level. BTW the baby and Ds are doing great!! This is already better than I ever imagined!