Year 2012, The End

[kingwilliam]

4 years from now, huh?? I guess that gives Hussein Obama one term to destroy the world

[calgarian]

So December 31 2011 you are throwing a party Big Sexy.....I will kill you if you didnt invite me.

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

So December 31 2011 you are throwing a party Big Sexy.....I will kill you if you didnt invite me.

haha hell yeah. Its going to be the biggest, baddest party ever. A topless party!

[Dukkit]

haha hell yeah. Its going to be the biggest, baddest party ever. A topless party!

ohh fun!! im coming down... dont worry. ill have my top off!! believe dat!!!

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

ohh fun!! im coming down... dont worry. ill have my top off!! believe dat!!!

whoa whoa whoa, who said your invited?


You bring math chick and your in.

[Dukkit]

whoa whoa whoa, who said your invited?


You bring math chick and your in.

PSHTT!! i was planning on bringing all my chicks! all 20 of them.

but since you say it that way. ill just bring math chick!

haha.

your loss!!

[Skippa]

As long as i die big!!

[james21]

the end of the world by predictions actually isnt till december 21st 2012 .. so a little more time

[Hoggage_54]

[ollieolson99]

If the myans where so smart why'd they kill themselves off?

[Flagg]

If the myans where so smart why'd they kill themselves off?

The Spanish killed the Mayans.

I hope this turns into some sceanrio where radiation turns 98% of the population into zombies, where the remaining 2% (of which im a part of) drive around in armoured cars, shooting zombies and trying to survive.

[j4ever41]

The Spanish killed the Mayans.

I hope this turns into some sceanrio where radiation turns 98% of the population into zombies, where the remaining 2% (of which im a part of) drive around in armoured cars, shooting zombies and trying to survive.

im down with that.

[pyrat]

i'll be in vegas with about 2 dozen hookers. You can take that to the bank.

[BJJ]

The Spanish killed the Mayans.

I hope this turns into some sceanrio where radiation turns 98% of the population into zombies, where the remaining 2% (of which im a part of) drive around in armoured cars, shooting zombies and trying to survive.

There are no historical proof of that!
Again, why writing something which was not proven? Spanish did not even reach the Mayans locations which remained hidden for several centuries!

[Flagg]

There are no historical proof of that!
Again, why writing something which was not proven? Spanish did not even reach the Mayans locations which remained hidden for several centuries!

The Mayan Civilisation reached its peak around 9th century AD and around 1000AD seemingly collapsed on itself. Various reasons for this range from over-population, collapse of key trade routes, disease, famine and foreign invasion. A 200 year drought most likely had the biggest impact on their collapse. After this event a "post classic" Mayan civilisation persisted, but then the spaniards came in 16th Century and began colonising South America. Apart from the fact that the Spaniards slaughtered ten's of thousands of Aztecs and Mayans, bringing a whole host of nasty diseases from Europe also hastened the end of indigenous people in South America.

[RuhlFreak55]

The Spanish killed the Mayans.

I hope this turns into some sceanrio where radiation turns 98% of the population into zombies, where the remaining 2% (of which im a part of) drive around in armoured cars, shooting zombies and trying to survive.

nothing could be more awesome than this

[Flagg]

nothing could be more awesome than this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=071KqJu7WVo

Check this out Rhul, this film will be made of pure win.

[Flagg]

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0328104302.htm

There;s an interesting article here from ScienceDaily on how the pyramids of the Aztecs, Mayans and Egyptians were built....Egyptian pyramids being the most awesome. I know i've been somewhat sceptical in this thread but even I concede that the building of these constructs raises a lot of question marks. For example they think it would take 20,000 people today to recreate a Pyramid now. I do believe that these three civilisations were far more sophisticated than the rest of the world, considering how much older they were as well. This article also suggests that they possessed a technology that has been lost through time, but if that is the case...why has no ancient relic been found. It's very interesting stuff! Stone Henge is also something to marvel at. If you consider that back then, humans didn't have the luxuries of trucks or pullies and Stone Henge is something like 3000- 4000 years old. Also again, StoneHenge is a solar callander. The largest stone is some 44 tons. Theres an interesting article about that here:

http://www.firstscience.com/home/art...enge_1388.html

What is also interesting to note is that the stones used to make Stonehenge came from Wales, 200 miles away from its current location..

[RuhlFreak55]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=071KqJu7WVo

Check this out Rhul, this film will be made of pure win.

yea that movie looks absolutely hilarious

[BJJ]

If the myans where so smart why'd they kill themselves off?

They did not, where did you read that fake info.
Probably, since they just disappeared, they were coming from another planet (this would explain their vast and unique knowledge) and simply there they returned.

[Flagg]

They did not, where did you read that fake info.
Probably, since they just disappeared, they were coming from another planet (this would explain their vast and unique knowledge) and simply there they returned.

Again are you sure you have your facts right? The Spaniards didn't reach South America till around the late 15th century, but 400 years prior to that the Mayan Civilisation took a massive hit. Drought and over-population being the two biggest factors and naturally with a massive population comes the fact that sooner or later you are going to consume at a faster rate than you can produce, so in some ways the Mayans did contribute to their own demise during the classical period.

EDIT: I've also just read that you think they returned to their "home world", and yet you ask everyone to stick to the historical facts. Well as interesting as that might be that they returned to some other planet, where is YOUR EVIDENCE of this? And why didn't they use their superior technology to save them during the 1000AD endemic and when the Spaniards arrived?

[BJJ]

Again are you sure you have your facts right? The Spaniards didn't reach South America till around the late 15th century, but 400 years prior to that the Mayan Civilisation took a massive hit. Drought and over-population being the two biggest factors and naturally with a massive population comes the fact that sooner or later you are going to consume at a faster rate than you can produce, so in some ways the Mayans did contribute to their own demise during the classical period.

EDIT: I've also just read that you think they returned to their "home world", and yet you ask everyone to stick to the historical facts. Well as interesting as that might be that they returned to some other planet, where is YOUR EVIDENCE of this? And why didn't they use their superior technology to save them during the 1000AD endemic and when the Spaniards arrived?

I used the word "probably" talking about going back on their own planet and was not writing in an imperative way, as you did.
That's what I wanted to mean regarding historical facts, using imperative only with facts recognized by our present knowledge.

Furthermore, your facts are reported on some historical books made to rule and dominate the common thinking.
If you have the time to research deeper, you'll discover other books, less popular but with logical evidences. This books are not welcome in any schools in any countries.
After all, it is like if you were saying that Cristoforo Colombo discovered the American continent...

[Flagg]

The thing is BJJ, it's got to the stage now that someones version of events are going to vary from someone elses. So who do you believe? The guy who's versions are mostly tied to your own belief system. Im not ruling out aliens and the like, but there is no evidence at all of extra terrestrial involvement in the collapse of the Mayan Civilisation, so it makes sense to draw on more natural and anthropogenic causes.

[j4ever41]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11iCmzGnOI8


Is it? With the whole Mayan Indian thing, Nostradamus, The Chinese I Ching, only one more pope, when there is a "black lord", The sun, milky way, etc, etc. There is a bunch of stuff about it. So do a search if it further interests you.

nope.

[IronReload04]

Well I will tell you what. If I would have thought of that idea to link all that stuff together......Sell it and make money off it, thats probably what I would have done. Just like people did with Y2K.....think about it.

[lovbyts]

Im somewhat of an expert on this since I just visited Tulum for the 3rd time a couple weeks ago.... hehehe

They even said that they believe the Mayans had to move out of their cities because they used up all the natural resources building them. LOL

They believe the Mayans had moved quite a while before the Spanish showed up.

[BJJ]

Im somewhat of an expert on this since I just visited Tulum for the 3rd time a couple weeks ago.... hehehe

They even said that they believe the Mayans had to move out of their cities because they used up all the natural resources building them. LOL

They believe the Mayans had moved quite a while before the Spanish showed up.

It is not just a believe, it is a historical fact. Mayans' ruins were discovered many years later and were surrounded by the vegetation which, while colonizers were invading the lands, kept growing overlooking all the buildings.

I believe we all should rely on historical facts and sciences, at first.

[jbm]

tsk tsk tsk!

[Mooseman33]

anyone who thinks a civilization returned home to its planet has no credit with me.

that is some crazy off the wall sht.

[energizer bunny]

nostradamus didnt predict the end in 2012..........he predicted the end in 3786 or 3797...depending on the source......

either way....when/if it happens..then so be it....

[BJJ]

Look, since you are asking I am going to express my ideas on this topic (Maya) deeply...
Though not know, since I have a class to go to. I am going to do it tonight.

Regarding the 2012, I do think Maya has nothing to do with that in reality.
My view is very simple and it is related to the precessional motion of the planets, solar systems and galaxies.
Since, by that time our planet will be on axis with the center of The Milky Way so also on axis with the huge black hole located in the center of our galaxy, the Sun's magnetic flux density will be very intense compared to the calculated last ones in the previous centuries and since, unfortunately, the Earth is moving right now already its north magnetic pole upside down with its south one, we might experience what no other humans did before us simply because in the past no-one was relying on electricity, as we do.
Personally, I believe we might have transportation troubles, electricity failures and all the problems which, as a water fall, may develop...
Also, and this is what I believe Maya wanted to mean, we might change our thinking way and perception of life, because the magnetic influence on our brains will drastically change. Scientists nowadays quote that our brain is influenced by the inner ferrous nucleus located in the center of our planet. If they are correct, since that influence will change in 2012, we shall change too.

[Flagg]

Look, since you are asking I am going to express my ideas on this topic (Maya) deeply...
Though not know, since I have a class to go to. I am going to do it tonight.

Regarding the 2012, I do think Maya has nothing to do with that in reality.
My view is very simple and it is related to the precessional motion of the planets, solar systems and galaxies.
Since, by that time our planet will be on axis with the center of The Milky Way so also on axis with the huge black hole located in the center of our galaxy, the Sun's magnetic flux density will be very intense compared to the calculated last ones in the previous centuries and since, unfortunately, the Earth is moving right now already its north magnetic pole upside down with its south one, we might experience what no other humans did before us simply because in the past no-one was relying on electricity, as we do.
Personally, I believe we might have transportation troubles, electricity failures and all the problems which, as a water fall, may develop...
Also, and this is what I believe Maya wanted to mean, we might change our thinking way and perception of life, because the magnetic influence on our brains will drastically change. Scientists nowadays quote that our brain is influenced by the inner ferrous nucleus located in the center of our planet. If they are correct, since that influence will change in 2012, we shall change too.

Well i cant remember where i've read it, but our magnetic poles realign some every 140,000 years. Everyones big fear is that we will momentarily be without a magnetic field, allowing vast amounts of cosmic radiation to bombard the earth. Well im sure if that is the case we have nothing to worry about as if this is an occuring cycle and life as we know it has been around for millions of years, is still around and no ones DNA has been damaged beyond repair, then im fairly confident that nothing is going to happen. As for planets, stars and galaxies realigning, causing massive gravitational forces...well if its precessional that suggests that to is a cycle. How often does this cycle occur? Once a million years? Once a billion years? How could Mayans know this without the proper equipment. Im certain they had no Hubble Telescope back then. Life was around beyond a billion years ago and still is now. I mean im no bilogist but you seem to be suggesting that we'll undergo some sort of transformation if the core of our planet changes somehow. I'm very dubious about this, only because of the age of our planet and all the cycles and changes in climate that has occured has not incumbered life one iota since the first trilobites started appearing.

[DarnGoodLookin]

Ohhh!!!! Thanks for that bud , it makes me feel soo much better....

Oh btw u got any proof u from the future????? Like tomorrow nights lotto numbers?????

Thanks bro just PM me

I sure do have proof. In the future we have anti lie chips inbeded in our bones... so I can't be lieing. Tomorrow's lotto numbers are Q... that is all.

could you pls tell me the price of jpm in 2025?
thank you.

Well let me answer your question by asking you this... how much wood could a wood chuck, chuck, if a wood chuck could chuck wood??

[BJJ]

Well i cant remember where i've read it, but our magnetic poles realign some every 140,000 years. Everyones big fear is that we will momentarily be without a magnetic field, allowing vast amounts of cosmic radiation to bombard the earth. Well im sure if that is the case we have nothing to worry about as if this is an occuring cycle and life as we know it has been around for millions of years, is still around and no ones DNA has been damaged beyond repair, then im fairly confident that nothing is going to happen. yes but in the past the human civilization was not relying on electricity as we do right now...As for planets, stars and galaxies realigning, causing massive gravitational forces...well if its precessional that suggests that to is a cycle. How often does this cycle occur? Once a million years? Once a billion years? How could Mayans know this without the proper equipment. Im certain they had no Hubble Telescope back then. you come to my point, mayans knew about this, and it is well reported on their monumental inscriptions, because they probably came from another place. this would also explain all the knowledge they had on many other topics always related to astronomy while the rest of the world was "digging with hands".Life was around beyond a billion years ago and still is now. I mean im no bilogist but you seem to be suggesting that we'll undergo some sort of transformation if the core of our planet changes somehow. i do not suggest anything, scientists do. i just read their conclusions and try to figure out with my little knowledge and experience if they are correct.I'm very dubious about this, only because of the age of our planet and all the cycles and changes in climate that has occured has not incumbered life one iota since the first trilobites started appearing. were you there all the time to quote no changes had taken place? in reality, many changes happened but no-one was there to report it. we are still unsure regarding the development of the homo sapiens...

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[stack_it]

I've been planning on throwing an end of the world party for a while now. Maybe we should combine parties and take over an entire city.

[Mooseman33]

im sorry, but if u really believe a whole civilization came from another planet then i think u should be locked up.
i believe u are a very educated man, however this "they came from another place" stuff is just wacky..

[BJJ]

I see your point, after all it is just my personal opinion which is not supported by any historical facts; so, truly debatable!

But then, how do you explain their knowledge?
How could they possibly know what they knew and I am not speaking about the year 2012 but the precessional motion of the planets for example? Why were they able to calculate in such a marvellous and greatly accurate way all the movements of the 12 constellations? How could they know how to calculate the lunar and solar eclipse until our days?

Another theory speaks about they were human indeed but were visited by "others" who gave them the knowledge. Not only to them, there are many other occurrences in the historical development of our race.

[RuhlFreak55]

I see your point, after all it is just my personal opinion which is not supported by any historical facts; so, truly debatable!

But then, how do you explain their knowledge?
How could they possibly know what they knew and I am not speaking about the year 2012 but the precessional motion of the planets for example? Why were they able to calculate in such a marvellous and greatly accurate way all the movements of the 12 constellations? How could they know how to calculate the lunar and solar eclipse until our days?

Another theory speaks about they were human indeed but were visited by "others" who gave them the knowledge. Not only to them, there are many other occurrences in the historical development of our race.

bam...jackpot...I believe this wholeheartedly. It's been said more than once, the things accomplished by civilizations like the Mayans and the Egyptians were impossible given what is thought to be their level of technological know how.

it is indeed the only LOGICAL explanation

[BJJ]

...not to forget the codex Dresdensis!

[dj87]

lol wow this thread has made my day with everybodys off the wall posts, we will never be able to know when it will come and im willling to be my life it will be once our kids,kids,kids,kids,kids,kids,kids,kids,kids,kids are here maybe even longer who knows, but i got one hell of a laugh