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    Quote Originally Posted by JTP$ View Post
    yea, i like the 500 magnum, I have one with a 4" barrel. IMO no firearm collection is complete without a 500 mag revolver.

    i put more rounds through my 629 in .44 mag though because .44 mag ammo is much cheaper than 500 mag



    i agree, .177 cal breakbarrel air rifles feel almost as powerful as a .22 lr and you can shoot them in your backyard. I have a gamo storm that i use occasionally for some cheap, easy rifle fun.

    you can get break barrels in .22 and 30 cal too. im thinking i need to get that 30 cal break barrel eventually.



    .22 short, .22 lr, 9mm, 5.56, .308, 30-06, .357 mag, 45-70, 50 bmg, 12 ga, 2 3/4





    check this out man, 72 cal, AEA Zeus
    Gamo makes some fun plinkers in .177 and .22. There is soooo much more to choose from than when I was a 6 year old and had a Crosman 760.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JTP$ View Post
    yea, i like the 500 magnum, I have one with a 4" barrel. IMO no firearm collection is complete without a 500 mag revolver.

    i put more rounds through my 629 in .44 mag though because .44 mag ammo is much cheaper than 500 mag



    i agree, .177 cal breakbarrel air rifles feel almost as powerful as a .22 lr and you can shoot them in your backyard. I have a gamo storm that i use occasionally for some cheap, easy rifle fun.

    you can get break barrels in .22 and 30 cal too. im thinking i need to get that 30 cal break barrel eventually.



    .22 short, .22 lr, 9mm, 5.56, .308, 30-06, .357 mag, 45-70, 50 bmg, 12 ga, 2 3/4





    check this out man, 72 cal, AEA Zeus
    Fucking hell makes my Birmingham small arms look like a catapult
    I think you would struggle to even get that on a firearms certificate over here
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuz View Post
    Yeah, 500 ammo is pretty ridiculous. Its about 4 dollars a round for decent rounds. Have three boxes in my shopping cart and its 227 bucks without tax and shipping. But at least Ukraine got 40 billion..
    the cost for 500 mag ammo is a deterrent for sure. ive found that as the years have gone by i have less and less desire to burn through hundreds of dollars in ammo in one afternoon at the range. i did manage to significantly stock up on .22 lr ammo though, so the beretta m9-22 and s&w m&p15-22 have been keeping me entertained.

    as for ukraine, its funny how that works. makes me wonder what percentage of that went directly into joe bidens personal off shore bank accounts.

    Quote Originally Posted by almostgone View Post
    Gamo makes some fun plinkers in .177 and .22. There is soooo much more to choose from than when I was a 6 year old and had a Crosman 760.
    gamo makes some great products that are high quality and not too expensive. i remember the crosman 760 days though, it was either that or a red ryder. the 760 is actually a really good air rifle as well, just takes alot of time and effort to get some decent velocity out of it

    speaking of crosman though, have you seen their full auto AR and AK BB guns?

    Quote Originally Posted by stocky121 View Post
    Fucking hell makes my Birmingham small arms look like a catapult
    I think you would struggle to even get that on a firearms certificate over here
    yea, that thing is over the top. it appears to have as much recoil as a 12 gauge shotgun with slugs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JTP$ View Post



    check this out man, 72 cal, AEA Zeus
    Anatomically, that is a cool-ass vid! It blew my mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by almostgone View Post
    It varies. A 3330 Round Case - 22 LR Winchester 36 grain copper hollowpoint is about $230 w/ free shipping.

    Edit: Added free shipping.
    .22lr is a round i completely took for granted prior to 2012, then the sandy hook school shooting happened, and .22lr dried up completely for years. at the time i only had ~1000 rounds of it, maybe a little more.

    years later during Trumps first presidential run i was walking through walmart and saw they had completely full shelves of .22lr at very good prices. so over the next few months i bought 70,000 rounds of it. i will never again be caught with an empty stash of .22lr

    Quote Originally Posted by wango View Post
    Anatomically, that is a cool-ass vid! It blew my mind.
    lol, yea. mr balistic gel torso's mind got blown too.

    theres actually quite a few videos of these torsos and skulls getting blasted with various calibers. 50 BMG makes quite a mess of them too

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    My 338lap 250grain vs 50bmg 660grain

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    Never been a big fan of air rifles they just don't have the range. Shooting on a small block of land I would just use a 22 with some quiet rounds that are around 600-700 fps or even some 22 shorts if I wanted to keep the noise down for the neighbour. Then you can use higher rounds like CCI stingers at around 1600fps. Very versatile in the same rifle.

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    2 gook sks and a gook ak(type56).

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    I'm at the gun club here sitting waiting to go into the office to fill out my form for the firearms certificate and to collect my revolver.

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    Yeah, 500 ammo is pretty ridiculous. Its about 4 dollars a round for decent rounds. Have three boxes in my shopping cart and its 227 bucks without tax and shipping. But at least Ukraine got 40 billion..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuz View Post
    Yeah, 500 ammo is pretty ridiculous. Its about 4 dollars a round for decent rounds. Have three boxes in my shopping cart and its 227 bucks without tax and shipping. But at least Ukraine got 40 billion..
    Maybe think about taking up reloading, Cuz? I usually load in the fall and winter when the humidity is down. It kind of helps me relax and the SC humidity is much lower.
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    Quote Originally Posted by almostgone View Post
    Maybe think about taking up reloading, Cuz? I usually load in the fall and winter when the humidity is down. It kind of helps me relax and the SC humidity is much lower.
    I looked into it a few years back. May look into it again. My dad’s cousin does it but hes one of those old timers that dont say much unless he really trusts you i guess. Im gonna look into it again since you mention it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuz View Post
    Yeah, 500 ammo is pretty ridiculous. Its about 4 dollars a round for decent rounds. Have three boxes in my shopping cart and its 227 bucks without tax and shipping. But at least Ukraine got 40 billion..
    Going to PM you. Right now they only have 1 brand in stock, but several weights, and a couple of bullet styles. Free shipping over $200.
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    Going to PM you. Right now they only have 1 brand in stock, but several weights, and a couple of bullet styles. Free shipping over $200.
    Didn't read through all of this thread as it seemed to get REALLY stupid by some posts.

    But for you guys in the states, and east coast even better, I have a buddy that is an ammo dealer. Well he opened his ammo supply business a few years ago and did shows and online for a few years. He's just opened a gun store in my town

    Anyway, sometimes he can get harder to find ammo or may even have some stock already, if interested.

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    How much do you guys pay for a thousand rounds of .22LR? I'm getting told £70 is the rock bottom price over here (at today's exchange rate = US$86.70).

    When I receive my revolver I'm gonna buy a thousand rounds at a time.

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    It varies. A 3330 Round Case - 22 LR Winchester 36 grain copper hollowpoint is about $230 w/ free shipping.

    Edit: Added free shipping.
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    My penchant for .22LR is all about price.

    I'm just dipping my toes here into the sport of shooting, and I have a friend of mine telling me to get a 9mm Glock, but I'm going with a .22LR revolver. Because cheap ammo and no feeding issues.

    When my firearms certificate is approved and I can take my new gun home, I'm gonna take the cylinder out and use a vernier callipers on it to get measurements, then I'll try make a file for a CNC lathe to make a perfect replica of the cylinder. If I can make a fully-functional cylinder that works just as good as the original, then next I will try to put more holes in the cylinder. Right now the capacity is 7 but I'd love to bump it up a bit to 10 or more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluidic Kimbo View Post
    My penchant for .22LR is all about price.

    I'm just dipping my toes here into the sport of shooting, and I have a friend of mine telling me to get a 9mm Glock, but I'm going with a .22LR revolver. Because cheap ammo and no feeding issues.

    When my firearms certificate is approved and I can take my new gun home, I'm gonna take the cylinder out and use a vernier callipers on it to get measurements, then I'll try make a file for a CNC lathe to make a perfect replica of the cylinder. If I can make a fully-functional cylinder that works just as good as the original, then next I will try to put more holes in the cylinder. Right now the capacity is 7 but I'd love to bump it up a bit to 10 or more.

    Here's how it looks right now:

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    That won't work. If there is space (very doubtful), you will still have to time the cylinder to the hammer and still be in line with the bore. If you're going to bastardize the thing and risk hurting someone else, I hope they deny you the firearm. That is one of the most irresponsible ideas I've ever heard.

    You don't f-in file accurate holes. You center drill them, drill them, then ream them in an accurate location.

    Up to now, I thought you were more intelligent than that. Weird, but more intelligent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by almostgone View Post
    That won't work.
    It's almost like timing, degrees and minutes of angle are important. Dang, I guess we really WILL use high school math after all...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cylon357 View Post
    It's almost like timing, degrees and minutes of angle are important. Dang, I guess we really WILL use high school math after all...
    Exactly. The diameter and pitch of the pattern to receive the cartridges is critical.....in addition to the timing.

    Who wants to attempt to fire a revolver with the cylinder out of time....dang, talk about shaving lead ( if you get off that lucky).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cylon357 View Post
    It's almost like timing, degrees and minutes of angle are important.
    After I bring the gun home and remove the cylinder, I'll see if it's possible to adjust the degrees by which the trigger rotates the cylinder.

    Of course if I ever did put a custom-made cylinder in it, I'd test it without ammo a thousand times, and then I'd test it with blanks a thousand times, before trying a real round.

    The engraving along the side of the barrel is horrible, it says TRACKER in big capital letters. I wonder if there's any way I could have the engraving filled in.

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    I see that someone has made a picatinny rail to fit the Taurus Tracker so I might get it and stick a green laser on it.

    Also there's a deer stalking course next month so I might do it. Stalking deer with a revolver with a green laser would be enjoyable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by almostgone View Post
    That won't work. If there is space (very doubtful), you will still have to time the cylinder to the hammer and still be in line with the bore. If you're going to bastardize the thing and risk hurting someone else, I hope they deny you the firearm. That is one of the most irresponsible ideas I've ever heard.

    You don't f-in file accurate holes. You center drill them, drill them, then ream them in an accurate location.

    Up to now, I thought you were more intelligent than that. Weird, but more intelligent.
    There are speedloaders for most revolvers that are currently in production. Besides, the cylinders that the gun manufacturer made have been thoroughly tested to be able to withstand the pressures of the rounds they shoot. If you mill some cylinder, even if you get timing right on it, You don't know if that thing is going to work time after time or if it's going to be a pipebomb in your hand.

    Actually, after thinking about this a little more. I full support Kimbo making himself a cylinder for his revolver. I just think he needs to go with a higher caliber than .22lr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluidic Kimbo View Post
    My penchant for .22LR is all about price.

    I'm just dipping my toes here into the sport of shooting, and I have a friend of mine telling me to get a 9mm Glock, but I'm going with a .22LR revolver. Because cheap ammo and no feeding issues.

    When my firearms certificate is approved and I can take my new gun home, I'm gonna take the cylinder out and use a vernier callipers on it to get measurements, then I'll try make a file for a CNC lathe to make a perfect replica of the cylinder. If I can make a fully-functional cylinder that works just as good as the original, then next I will try to put more holes in the cylinder. Right now the capacity is 7 but I'd love to bump it up a bit to 10 or more.

    Here's how it looks right now:

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    If by some miracle you did increase the ammo capacity. Then it wouldn’t conform to the FAC.
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    By the way when I said 'file' in my other post, I meant the kind of file that's stored on a computer hard disk (not the kind of file you hold in your hand to grind metal). I meant a computer file containing all the data required for the CNC machine to make the cylinder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluidic Kimbo View Post
    By the way when I said 'file' in my other post, I meant the kind of file that's stored on a computer hard disk (not the kind of file you hold in your hand to grind metal). I meant a computer file containing all the data required for the CNC machine to make the cylinder.
    You're not going to find any legal Catia, Pro-E, Hypermill, etc. files or map it out accurately enough. Can't do it with a CMM because you need the basic dimensions to program the CMM

    You would be violating several laws. Additionally, you'll never get the ratchet for the cylinder graduated to index. The material just isn't there nor will you have enough material left for cartridge extraction.
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    Kimbo, I'm not trying to be more of an a-hole than usual, but your plan isn't safe nor is it feasible.

    Just enjoy what you have.
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    You might be able to fill in the engraving with a colored epoxy resin, but it may require bead blasting the area for better adhesion. No idea how long it would take, and I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't void your lifetime warranty in some manner.
    Firearm manufacturers carry a high liability, so when one is modified, it needs to be done by the manufacturer or a certified 3rd party.
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    In the USA, I don't think you have to be too discrete about your guns because so many people have them.

    I think here in the UK though, I need to be discrete when I get my revolver and take it home. I don't think I should be blabbing my mouth telling everyone about it, and I don't think I should be sharing photos around the place, for two reasons:
    (1) I don't want the police confiscating my gun
    (2) I don't want to be burgled for my gun

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluidic Kimbo View Post
    In the USA, I don't think you have to be too discrete about your guns because so many people have them.

    I think here in the UK though, I need to be discrete when I get my revolver and take it home. I don't think I should be blabbing my mouth telling everyone about it, and I don't think I should be sharing photos around the place, for two reasons:
    (1) I don't want the police confiscating my gun
    (2) I don't want to be burgled for my gun
    Now, that is good common sense! Believe it or not, even having a gun safe/saves does no good to brag about here in America. It does no good to invite trouble.

    My state has open carry, but I keep my CWP renewed and carry concealed unless I'm working on our land or helping a neighbor.
    To me, I feel like wearing it concealed gives you an advantage. That's no hit against those that prefer to open carry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluidic Kimbo View Post
    In the USA, I don't think you have to be too discrete about your guns because so many people have them.

    I think here in the UK though, I need to be discrete when I get my revolver and take it home. I don't think I should be blabbing my mouth telling everyone about it, and I don't think I should be sharing photos around the place, for two reasons:
    (1) I don't want the police confiscating my gun
    (2) I don't want to be burgled for my gun
    If you can legally obtain a firearm and keep it in your home, why would you be afraid of the police confiscating it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong View Post
    If you can legally obtain a firearm and keep it in your home, why would you be afraid of the police confiscating it?
    If I were to share photographs or videos of me with my gun, then I probably shouldn't mess around in the photographs/videos. The cops can revoke my certificate if they think I'm taking photographs or making videos in which I'm messing around with my gun, like pretending to be a cowboy or whatever.

    They revoke firearms certificates for other stuff too. One guy at the shooting range had the police called out to his house for a domestic with his wife, and they took his guns away.

    Even if I'm caught speeding in my car or run a red light, I have to call the the firearms and explosives branch and tell them. If they make the decision that they don't want me to have a gun for whatever reason then they'll just revoke my certificate and take my gun away.

    So if I do ever share videos/photographs of me with my gun then it would have to be pretty serious stuff at the shooting range. By law I think I'm only allowed to have my gun in 3 places:
    (1) At home
    (2) At the shooting range
    (3) In my own personal vehicle in transit to the shooting range (or on the way back home)

    It would be very easy for them to revoke my certificate if they ever saw a photograph of me with my gun anywhere else. To be smart about it I should only take videos/photographs at the shooting range, and not messing around screaming Yee Haw like cowboy.

    A friend of mine has a firearms certificate so I asked him if he could go to my gun club and take my revolver and bring it to his club so that we can shoot there, but by law he's forbidden to transport in his vehicle any gun other than what's listed on his own firearms certificate.

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    In other news…


    Beware of fake ammo sights. seems to be alot floating around. If its too good to be true, it is. I almost fell for it today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuz View Post
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    Beware of fake ammo sights. seems to be alot floating around. If its too good to be true, it is. I almost fell for it today.
    I've run across several on ammoseek, etc. When I got to looking around, several of them had numerous complaints and their websites were actually "copycat" sights. I usually stick to SG, Widener's, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuz View Post
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    Beware of fake ammo sights. seems to be alot floating around. If its too good to be true, it is. I almost fell for it today.
    How good of a deal were they offering?

    I'm still salty over Bayou Bullets. I bought some 45 ACP projectiles during the "holocough," and it took them almost a whole year to mail them to me. I even tried contacting them via email. Not one response. Then I get a notice that my order has been shipped and it was so long, I nearly forgot I even ordered it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluidic Kimbo View Post
    If I were to share photographs or videos of me with my gun, then I probably shouldn't mess around in the photographs/videos. The cops can revoke my certificate if they think I'm taking photographs or making videos in which I'm messing around with my gun, like pretending to be a cowboy or whatever.

    They revoke firearms certificates for other stuff too. One guy at the shooting range had the police called out to his house for a domestic with his wife, and they took his guns away.

    Even if I'm caught speeding in my car or run a red light, I have to call the the firearms and explosives branch and tell them. If they make the decision that they don't want me to have a gun for whatever reason then they'll just revoke my certificate and take my gun away.

    So if I do ever share videos/photographs of me with my gun then it would have to be pretty serious stuff at the shooting range. By law I think I'm only allowed to have my gun in 3 places:
    (1) At home
    (2) At the shooting range
    (3) In my own personal vehicle in transit to the shooting range (or on the way back home)

    It would be very easy for them to revoke my certificate if they ever saw a photograph of me with my gun anywhere else. To be smart about it I should only take videos/photographs at the shooting range, and not messing around screaming Yee Haw like cowboy.

    A friend of mine has a firearms certificate so I asked him if he could go to my gun club and take my revolver and bring it to his club so that we can shoot there, but by law he's forbidden to transport in his vehicle any gun other than what's listed on his own firearms certificate.
    TLDR. I don't normally support gun laws, but any law keeping a gun out of your hands is a good one.

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    Just picked up this springfield xdm elite in 10 mm auto. Vortex viper red dot. Holds 16 rounds, gonna be my primary, letting the old sub c 40 be a backup

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    Just picked up this springfield xdm elite in 10 mm auto. Vortex viper red dot. Holds 16 rounds, gonna be my primary, letting the old sub c 40 be a backup
    Nice I grabbed a hellcat pro a few months ago. It's my main carry when I'm in the truck. Then keep my sig p238 with me on the bike. Got a cheapish swampfox red dot im picking up sat.
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    Nice I grabbed a hellcat pro a few months ago. It's my main carry when I'm in the truck. Then keep my sig p238 with me on the bike. Got a cheapish swampfox red dot im picking up sat.
    I love the hellcats too i just didnt want another sub compact but if i did that would be the one id buy in 9mm

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    Just picked up this springfield xdm elite in 10 mm auto. Vortex viper red dot. Holds 16 rounds, gonna be my primary, letting the old sub c 40 be a backup
    Nice!! 10mm is a potent round.

    Springfield has really upped their pistol game. They did good when they introduced the XD and have just kept bringing good tools to the table
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