Phate's S4 Log

[legobricks]

Also logged, im interested in how the S4 will help with your goals. Im also thinking of using it myself....still in limbo tho

[Phate]

today was a weak point day

noticed good increases in strength and endurance

[MuscleScience]

So are you benching 400+ yet???

[Phate]

So are you benching 400+ yet???

Lol, i don't bench, can't stand it

[RANA]

Lol, i don't bench, can't stand it

Me either, only DB, cables and Machines. I don't feel like ripping a pec

[Epic1]

Me either! but ill do some incline instead

[stpete]

I'm checking from here on out. Good luck bro.

[Jumbo18]

how you been phate? you doing alright?

[hugovsilva]

Notice any body composition changes?

[D7M]

Hope your Dad recovers well, my friend.

[Reed]

Sorry to hear about your father Phate. Hope all is well

Do you have any updates for us, sides, you benching 500 yet? whats been going on, I'm really interested as I plan on utilizing this once i come off after the comps. Or hit me up on you know what.

[Phate]

Sorry to hear about your father Phate. Hope all is well

Do you have any updates for us, sides, you benching 500 yet? whats been going on, I'm really interested as I plan on utilizing this once i come off after the comps. Or hit me up on you know what.

i just got a full bloodwork taken(i'm in the middle of my S4 cycle) so this should be interesting

metabolic panel
thyroid panel
free and total test
lipid profile
liver values
etc....

[Reed]

I am very interested in what comes about.

I see you are not THAT impressed. Very well then I guess its not all that and more but can possibly help take that post cycle edge off for me.

[Phate]

I am very interested in what comes about.

I see you are not THAT impressed. Very well then I guess its not all that and more but can possibly help take that post cycle edge off for me.

that it could, remember you that i'm taking a low to moderate dose and since S4 is 17AA it's not hepatotoxic(at least to my knowledge), so you could(and knowing you would) run a much higher dose than i am now

though my next cycle(winter bulker) i'm going to run 250-300mg/day

[Reed]

You know oh so well.


But I'm trying to stay smart as I am only on my third cycle which is just to hold to muscle while i deplete and shred down. I don't wanna bump and bump too fast even though I wannaaaaaaaa........

[Phate]

You know oh so well.


But I'm trying to stay smart as I am only on my third cycle which is just to hold to muscle while i deplete and shred down. I don't wanna bump and bump too fast even though I wannaaaaaaaa........

don't worry, i'll be the genuine pig with this stuff and tell you how each cycle goes

[*RAGE*]

so sorry to hear about your dad bro, my prayers got out to him. I am following this thread very close, just read some stuff on this and am looking forward to see how it turns out for you....

thanks for being a ginny pig..

[amcon]

did you get the blood test back yet? and do you have weight gains? bf changes?

how do you feel in the s4 in general? were you on hrt before?

[Phate]

did you get the blood test back yet? and do you have weight gains? bf changes?

how do you feel in the s4 in general? were you on hrt before?

i should have the bloodtests back tomorrow and i'll report an abnormalities and such

on the S4 i feel about the same as off, and no, i have never cycled before or used any steroids/peptides/etc...

[amcon]

i should have the bloodtests back tomorrow and i'll report an abnormalities and such

on the S4 i feel about the same as off, and no, i have never cycled before or used any steroids/peptides/etc...

any good gains to talk about? weight or strenght? bf - notice any change?

[Phate]

any good gains to talk about? weight or strenght? bf - notice any change?

bf% is down at least 4% since i started and i look bigger IMO and the opinion of my parents

strength is up i believe, i just went from below sea level to 1000ft above and my strength is more than it was before i left in the presence of less oxygen

[NewMuscle83]

bf% is down at least 4% since i started and i look bigger IMO and the opinion of my parents

strength is up i believe, i just went from below sea level to 1000ft above and my strength is more than it was before i left in the presence of less oxygen

so, worth the cost so far I'm assuming?

From the sounds of this I don't see why it wouldn't become a staple in PCT.

[Reed]

bf% is down at least 4% since i started and i look bigger IMO and the opinion of my parents

strength is up i believe, i just went from below sea level to 1000ft above and my strength is more than it was before i left in the presence of less oxygen

So you are cutting currently I assume w/ cals below maintenance and carbs from fibrous veggies with strength up then its a pretty good product.

I'm depleting at the moment for contest prep and on test/tren/winny and my strength is definitely not going up.

[amcon]

bf% is down at least 4% since i started and i look bigger IMO and the opinion of my parents

strength is up i believe, i just went from below sea level to 1000ft above and my strength is more than it was before i left in the presence of less oxygen

that oxygen level is little or no change ... so that is good your stronger in similar conditions.

[amcon]

did you get the blood test back yet? and do you have weight gains? bf changes?

how do you feel in the s4 in general? were you on hrt before?

[Reed]

I'm going put my neck out and say dropping 4% in a months time is AMAZING. Congrats on that.

What are you 2% now benching 400lbs

[RANA]

Great info, I was contemplating on running during my PCT but with your info this really helps.

[Phate]

Great info, I was contemplating on running during my PCT but with your info this really helps.

i'm going to see if i can get prolactin and LH tests run this week as well to try and figure out what's causing the drop in test levels, i'm wondering if the SARM is messing with my LH levels, if so i can correct that

[Reed]

Good info, so I won't be using this in my PCT protocol once the contests are over.


And Phate you ain't gotta lie I know you're a raging alcoholic.



















































jk

[Phate]

Good info, so I won't be using this in my PCT protocol once the contests are over.


And Phate you ain't gotta lie I know you're a raging alcoholic.

jk

that's how i roll, 10 shots of whiskey before i go to the gym to do my balance ball squats and ego benches, then it's time for the one piece sweatsuit and knee high socks for my cardio

don't hate the player, hate the game, lol

[Reed]

that's how i roll, 10 shots of whiskey before i go to the gym to do my balance ball squats and ego benches, then it's time for the one piece sweatsuit and knee high socks for my cardio

don't hate the player, hate the game, lol

Shhh don't be giving out the secrets of the pros.

[*RAGE*]

So how much lean muscle mass have you put on so far?

[Phate]

Phate, prior to them drawing labs did/are you taking any other meds that could potentially increase AST/ALT like tylenol?

none that i could think of

So how much lean muscle mass have you put on so far?

idk yet, i just got back into texas last night so i need to get a comp test done

[chucklesmcgee]

none that i could think of
i just got back into texas last night so i need to get a comp test done

Good idea getting the body comp. I'm looking at Phase II results in humans- they lost almost as much fat as they gained muscle- so changes in body weight may be deceiving you as to how much muscle you're actually gaining. Once you figure out your new body comp, do the math and figure out your gain in lean mass. Solid log, btw.

[amcon]

read the thread... and make sure it is inline with your goals

[millionairemurph]

This is a good read, thanks phate

[jrmy]

let us know when u get the lh and prolactin checked bro.

[Phate]

let us know when u get the lh and prolactin checked bro.

already did

before S4

LH 2.77 mIU/mL
prolactin 11.4 ng/mL

while on S4

LH 4.1mIU/mL
prolactin 7.1ng/mL

[Jumbo18]

im confused, your lh went up and prolactin went down after getting off S4?

[Phate]

im confused, your lh went up and prolactin went down after getting off S4?

post edited, it wasnt "after S4" it was "while on S4"