Twelve weeks Test-e + Dbol kickstart - I came I saw I conquered. 10/1/11 => 15/05/11.

[9za4ck4]

My lifts are subpar as i focus more on mind-muscle, contraction and confusion than progressive overload.
with that exuse in play.. haha.

Bench: 230 for 4 strict, perfectly clean reps.
Deadlift: was around 380 for reps when i used to do them (6months ago). My lower back developement is fine, and i don't much care for oblique work where i can help it.
squat: olympic style ass to grass 245 for 8 clean reps. I'd assume i could hit 315 for a couple if i only went to 90.

since on cycle, my 2nd chest workout i pushed 240 for 4 strict reps, hoping thatll be on the rise again on monday.
squat is up 10lbs too.

no offense here man but really? your running all that and this is what your lifting? i understand your looking to gain muscle and to look big but damn man even if you look big your gonna be weak as h*ll. when your big the first thing people ask is whats your bench, what are you gonna say 275 at the end of this? i was easily benching in the 400+ when i was 19 at 5'10 and weighing 187. just saying man

[flexandex]

no offense here man but really? your running all that and this is what your lifting? i understand your looking to gain muscle and to look big but damn man even if you look big your gonna be weak as h*ll. when your big the first thing people ask is whats your bench, what are you gonna say 275 at the end of this? i was easily benching in the 400+ when i was 19 at 5'10 and weighing 187. just saying man

Bodybuilding is an illusion. I could care less what i lift. It is a number and its worthless other than the muscle it can help me grow.
The kind of people that ask 'hey brahhh what you bench?' are, for the most part, a band of retards.
I take pride in being as big as i am with my strength level.

Also, 400+ @ 187 @ 19? Easily no less, it took zero effort to do it eh?
http://www.goheavy.net/records/viewr...5-4b6800eec8fb
You bench at very top national level, with ease.. hahahahaha.
Don't believe you, but on the offchance (0.1%) you actually did that with respectable form, very impressive. I'd love to beable to put up numbers like that - but its not my priority, it'd just be a bonus, a huge bonus.

[9za4ck4]

Bodybuilding is an illusion. I could care less what i lift. It is a number and its worthless other than the muscle it can help me grow.
The kind of people that ask 'hey brahhh what you bench?' are, for the most part, a band of retards.
I take pride in being as big as i am with my strength level.

Also, 400+ @ 187 @ 19? Easily no less, it took zero effort to do it eh?
http://www.goheavy.net/records/viewr...5-4b6800eec8fb
You bench at very top national level, with ease.. hahahahaha.
Don't believe you, but on the offchance (0.1%) you actually did that with respectable form, very impressive. I'd love to beable to put up numbers like that - but its not my priority, it'd just be a bonus, a huge bonus.

that was after running 3 cycles my friend. my max was 415, i focused mainly on upper body back then and did compete in local events, but i did not neglect the lower body deadlift was 480, injured knee didnt allow much for squat. just didnt see the point in trying to appear something your not im referring to being strong.

[dec11]

no offense here man but really? your running all that and this is what your lifting? i understand your looking to gain muscle and to look big but damn man even if you look big your gonna be weak as h*ll. when your big the first thing people ask is whats your bench, what are you gonna say 275 at the end of this? i was easily benching in the 400+ when i was 19 at 5'10 and weighing 187. just saying man

thts a good bench!

[flexandex]

im still waiting for pictures..

We might beable to work something out.
I was thinking i could PM you a link to a private youtube vid, then delete it afterwards.
Atleast you'll be able to atest to the actual quality of my physique - which is very high (no ego).

omg, and to think you laughed at my 270kg dlift lol

Yeah. A 270kg after years and years of powerlifitng and cycling, with a sloppy physique. Cmon man, you can't be too proud of that? 1rm or reps?
170 from for reps from a bodybuilder who does them at the end of his workout and is also shredded and half your weight. Pathetic weight i agree, i deff wana try get back into them for a few weeks towards the end of my cycle - see what kind'v numbers il put up.
Didnt you say you were done here? Honestly man, you keep pouncing on these things you think will make me look bad - everytime you end up proven either wrong or ignorant.

thts a good bench!

Its a lie. He benchs in the top teir of the country with 405. Thatd take some dedication? Yet he deadlifts 480. Those are broken stats.
I'd be willing to be the ROM on his lift would be 3-4inchs.


Just for everyone else who wants to rag on my strength, take a look at this:

Thanks alot bro. Honestly everyone thinks i lift a lot of weight when i actually i dont. Bench i go up to 315 for reps. I did 405 for four reps like 2 or 3 times in my life lol. Never did dead lift i was supposed to start last back workout but slipped my mind and squat also 315 for reps depends how im feeling depends on if i touch 405

This guy is an absolute monster, shredded and huge. Best physqiue i've seen on this site. Weight is not the be all/end all when it comes to creating an awesome physique.

[DKbuilder]

no offense here man but really? your running all that and this is what your lifting? i understand your looking to gain muscle and to look big but damn man even if you look big your gonna be weak as h*ll. when your big the first thing people ask is whats your bench, what are you gonna say 275 at the end of this? i was easily benching in the 400+ when i was 19 at 5'10 and weighing 187. just saying man

Because strength reflects on how you look... This board is way too obsessed with how much you lift. It _(CAN)_ be a guildeline as when to use AAS and when not to. I, for example, am very tall (6'3) and I don't bench and squat much so therefore I shouldn't do any AAS? Remember that strength is also partly genetically determined.

[dec11]

My lifts are subpar as i focus more on mind-muscle, contraction and confusion than progressive overload.
with that exuse in play.. haha.

Bench: 230 for 4 strict, perfectly clean reps.
Deadlift: was around 380 for reps when i used to do them (6months ago). My lower back developement is fine, and i don't much care for oblique work where i can help it.
squat: olympic style ass to grass 245 for 8 clean reps. I'd assume i could hit 315 for a couple if i only went to 90.

since on cycle, my 2nd chest workout i pushed 240 for 4 strict reps, hoping thatll be on the rise again on monday.
squat is up 10lbs too.

omg, and to think you laughed at my 270kg dlift lol

[tjax03]

We really need the admin to delete all the argumentative posts in this log to clean it up. It has about 3.5 pages of useless posts.

[stevey_6t9]

im still waiting for pictures..

[dec11]

i came i saw i conquered, lmfao. says all you fvcking stupid child, i hope you get real screwed up from your 1st cycle, depression and all.

i couldnt give a fvck if i get banned, this site has turned to fvckin shite, supporting fvckheads like this

this little asshole is now actually out on the Q&A 'advising' ppl, with all the other assholes cheering him on. i mean, what the fvck is up with that???!!!

[flexandex]

i only started aas 3yrs ago afta i stopped competing you stupid little fvck. i think you're actually stupid enough to be confusing kg's and lb's. dopey. 270kgs @ 87.6kg bodyweight is no mean feat and representing your country in competition isnt either, if you ever get tht far slabber to me then.
sloppy physique? if your referring to my slin log pic, have you never heard of bulking you brainless misguided little prick. has mummy found out you spent your allowance on gear yet?

i came i saw i conquered, lmfao. says all you fvcking stupid child, i hope you get real screwed up from your 1st cycle, depression and all.

i couldnt give a fvck if i get banned, this site has turned to fvckin shite, supporting fvckheads like this

this little asshole is now actually out on the Q&A 'advising' ppl, with all the other assholes cheering him on. i mean, what the fvck is up with that???!!!

Small minds are the first to respond with anger (SRS, there was a study on it, lulz).

Nope, not at all. a 270kg @ 87 is a quality lift. just over 3x BW, i'm impressed by that. I assumed you did your 270 at the sloppy-fat state you're in atm.
Yeah i have heard of bulking, the chubby guys who use it as an excuse to slacken their diet and end up with a waist like yours are usually the first to claim it. I 'bulk' too, i just do it properly.
Funny you should say that.. got 10k for a graduation gift, so actually, yeah, she kinda did pay for it! hahahahahah.

If you notice, my advice is based in fact. Remember when you tried to call me out? And you were wrong? yeah, thats because you're still a parrot after 4,000 posts. The advice i give is in situations i am knowledgable about. Simple as that. So far, you're the only one to have been wrong. Perhaps you should 'hate' yourself... nvrmind.. i think you already do.

And the Pièce de résistance is in bold. You are so immature, so dense, so... sad? is that the word i'm looking for? that you actually wish horrible effects on me because you don't like my personality over an online forum. You'll notice you are the only one doing it, because its pathetic. You're pathetic. Wishing a 19yr olds life goes to shi/t because of an arguement you started. I think you're a waste of oxygen, but i would hope everything goes well for you in what you do.. because i'm not a vindictive fool. Not to mention you are the one that started flaming. You just can't keep away can you? you keep on coming back, getting angrier and angrier. You're only digging your hole deeper.. christ, you're like a women.

hahah yeah i just made it all up to try and boost my ego damn you caught me ahhh damn

dec11 have you not learned by now this guy is way better then all of us and smarter to, no need to get all pissed he will learn when his body starts showing him signs of being 45 to 50 at the age of 21 maybe he will stop and think oh fk i think something is wrong, or continue to be the genius that he is and continue out his nice short life itl be.

Lol. This coming from the guy who had run three cycles by age 19 and was still 187 lbs.
Christ, i'm stupid, but even i'm not that stupid!

lol whatever you want, i stil think just simple pics wud be better(no homo)

Where are your pics brah?

[9za4ck4]

Small minds are the first to respond with anger (SRS, there was a study on it, lulz).

Nope, not at all. a 270kg @ 87 is a quality lift. just over 3x BW, i'm impressed by that. I assumed you did your 270 at the sloppy-fat state you're in atm.
Yeah i have heard of bulking, the chubby guys who use it as an excuse to slacken their diet and end up with a waist like yours are usually the first to claim it. I bulk too, i just do it properly.
Funny you should say that.. got 10k for a graduation gift, so actually, yeah, she did! hahahahahah.

If you notice, my advice is based in fact. Remember when you tried to call me out? And you were wrong? yeah, thats because you're still a parrot after 4,000 posts. The advice i give is in situations i am knowledgable about. Simple as that. So far, you're the only one to have been wrong. Perhaps you should 'hate' yourself... nvrmind.. i think you already do.

And the Pièce de résistance is in bold. You are so immature, so dense, so... sad? is that the word i'm looking for? that you actually wish horrible effects on me because you don't like my personality over an online forum. You'll notice you are the only one doing it, because its pathetic. You're pathetic. Wishing a 19yr olds life goes to shi/t because of an arguement you started. I think you're a waste of oxygen, but i would hope everything goes well for you in what you do.. because i'm not a vindictive fool. Not to mention you are the one that started flaming. You just can't keep away can you? you keep on coming back, getting angrier and angrier. You're only digging your hole deeper..





Lol. This coming from the guy who had run three cycles by age 19 and was still 187 lbs.
Christ, i'm stupid, but even i'm not that stupid!


Where are your pics brah?

you dont know where i started when i started nor the goals i had set. you dont know the time i had set in between cycles or what i ran during my cycles. to be at where i was back then was well needless to say impressive. i never said doing roids at a young age was smart but atleast im not the dumba** doing them now. have fun with your mistakes

[flexandex]

you dont know where i started when i started nor the goals i had set. you dont know the time i had set in between cycles or what i ran during my cycles. to be at where i was back then was well needless to say impressive. i never said doing roids at a young age was smart but atleast im not the dumba** doing them now. have fun with your mistakes

ntsureifsrs.jpg
This is one of the most idiotic posts i've ever read.
It would take 1,000 words to pick apart everything thats wrong with it..

Bottom line. you ran 3 cycles by age 19. You've seen the way people reacted to my cycle.
Imagine how much respect they have for you doing 3 by age 19 and STILL being 187 lbs.

[dec11]

Small minds are the first to respond with anger (SRS, there was a study on it, lulz).

Nope, not at all. a 270kg @ 87 is a quality lift. just over 3x BW, i'm impressed by that. I assumed you did your 270 at the sloppy-fat state you're in atm.
Yeah i have heard of bulking, the chubby guys who use it as an excuse to slacken their diet and end up with a waist like yours are usually the first to claim it. I 'bulk' too, i just do it properly.
Funny you should say that.. got 10k for a graduation gift, so actually, yeah, she kinda did pay for it! hahahahahah.

If you notice, my advice is based in fact. Remember when you tried to call me out? And you were wrong? yeah, thats because you're still a parrot after 4,000 posts. The advice i give is in situations i am knowledgable about. Simple as that. So far, you're the only one to have been wrong. Perhaps you should 'hate' yourself... nvrmind.. i think you already do.

And the Pièce de résistance is in bold. You are so immature, so dense, so... sad? is that the word i'm looking for? that you actually wish horrible effects on me because you don't like my personality over an online forum. You'll notice you are the only one doing it, because its pathetic. You're pathetic. Wishing a 19yr olds life goes to shi/t because of an arguement you started. I think you're a waste of oxygen, but i would hope everything goes well for you in what you do.. because i'm not a vindictive fool. Not to mention you are the one that started flaming. You just can't keep away can you? you keep on coming back, getting angrier and angrier. You're only digging your hole deeper.. christ, you're like a women.




Lol. This coming from the guy who had run three cycles by age 19 and was still 187 lbs.
Christ, i'm stupid, but even i'm not that stupid!


Where are your pics brah?

well it wasnt hard to tell your spoilt little b@stard lol. and if you wana talk 'sloppy' or call me fat, get your pics up and we'll see were we are in comparison in 5 weeks, but im guessing you wont because you're a pathetic little weed.

knowledgable in giving advice??? you stupid fvcking w@nker lol

[DKbuilder]

Inc ban dec11

[dec11]

Inc ban dec11

yeah and you're another worthless asshole, who has all the helpful input of laughing at other ppl's avi's. jerk off

[9za4ck4]

hahah yeah i just made it all up to try and boost my ego damn you caught me ahhh damn

dec11 have you not learned by now this guy is way better then all of us and smarter to, no need to get all pissed he will learn when his body starts showing him signs of being 45 to 50 at the age of 21 maybe he will stop and think oh fk i think something is wrong, or continue to be the genius that he is and continue out his nice short life itl be.

[dec11]

hahah yeah i just made it all up to try and boost my ego damn you caught me ahhh damn

dec11 have you not learned by now this guy is way better then all of us and smarter to, no need to get all pissed he will learn when his body starts showing him signs of being 45 to 50 at the age of 21 maybe he will stop and think oh fk i think something is wrong, or continue to be the genius that he is and continue out his nice short life itl be.

yeah your prob right.
ive just seen enough of some of the assholes on here giving advice when they havent a clue what they are doing themselves

[SirLiftALOT]

yeah your prob right.
ive just seen enough of some of the assholes on here giving advice when they havent a clue what they are doing themselves

If you dont like what hes doing, then stop following his log. All the vets told him he shouldnt do it, they did their part and his mind is still set. He wants to run AAS let him run AAS. Maybe he ll run this cycle and recover perfectly fine. Maybe he ll complete fck up his body, who knows ? but at the end of the day its nothing off your plate.

Wishing bad on someone wont make BAD happen to them.

OP, i hope you smoothly recover from this cycle and if not, the vets warned you. Life goes on.

[9za4ck4]

more for me then the dumbass who is using, make mistakes you learn from them. and you wanna talk about stats again? quick look at yours now stfu

[supazeus]

someone remove all this arguing and let him run his damn log. who the **** cares? seriously

[PT]

we debate here, not fight or argue. the next time i see this the person will be suspended from this site

[flexandex]

well it wasnt hard to tell your spoilt little b@stard lol. and if you wana talk 'sloppy' or call me fat, get your pics up and we'll see were we are in comparison in 5 weeks, but im guessing you wont because you're a pathetic little weed.

knowledgable in giving advice??? you stupid fvcking w@nker lol

Looks like you've calmed your rage atleast, somewhat. Meh, money isn't everything. who really cares if i drive a nice car?
Dec, you have said you're done, 2-3 times already. When are you actually going to give it up? you've no buisness here; you're not intelligent enough to keep up.

we debate here, not fight or argue. the next time i see this the person will be suspended from this site

Thanks

[dec11]

Looks like you've calmed your rage atleast, somewhat. Meh, money isn't everything. who really cares if i drive a nice car?
Dec, you have said you're done, 2-3 times already. When are you actually going to give it up? you've no buisness here; you're not intelligent enough to keep up.


Thanks

there ya go PT. can we hit the eject button on him now. bad example, giving bad advice and continuing with the insults and flaming

[flexandex]

there ya go PT. can we hit the eject button on him now. bad example, giving bad advice and continuing with the insults and flaming

we? you aren't associated with the respected and mature mods / vets of the site man.
My advice is sound, feel free to try and correct something else only to be confirmed you are infact wrong.

Tbh, this whole fiasco has left a sour taste in my mouth. I'll keep my log private. I'll deff be posting an update telling everyone how much i've gained and how great i feel though everyone month or so

[marcus300]

we? you aren't associated with the respected and mature mods / vets of the site man.
My advice is sound, feel free to try and correct something else only to be confirmed you are infact wrong.

Tbh, this whole fiasco has left a sour taste in my mouth. I'll keep my log private. I'll deff be posting an update telling everyone how much i've gained and how great i feel though everyone month or so

Your a 19yr old arrogant kid who doesn't know what he is doing and who doesn't listen to advice, your cycle log is the worse I've seen and to be honest it gives the wrong impression to our young members. You will live and learn and hopefully in time you will mature and understand where you went wrong. I would also prefer ten dec11's to one of you so your wrong yet again.

[MACHINE5150]

WOW.. this thread really turned into a sh!t throwing contest didn't it?

[marcus300]

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