My Cycle 2nd

[Hindley]

Well I ran 1 cycle , was a test e 10 week 500mg..
Gains were ok, mainly because My diet was not checked...

As of now, my body is like in my avator..about 5 lbs leaner I'd say...also My tattoo is fixed...

anyways, 2 nd should be like this...btw. what I am looking to obtain is a lean bulk, maybe even drop my BF...



it will be 12 week.
Week 1-4 D-Bol 40 mg a day ( )
Week 1-12 , Sustanon (Organon ) 500 mg per week shot EOD.or just Monday 125-Wednesday 125 Friday 500.
Week 1-10 , Masteron E. 400 mg per week.Shot split in 2 times per week, or if can be shot other please tell me, I wanted to go with Masteron P. but Did not get enough...

PCT , I have Nolva , Clomid , and Arimidex ...

I should start it around the 15th of September, I will make a cycle Log..
Pls if there is anything to be adden just go ahead...also I have pics of my Gear, I would post them some other day...

oh yeah stats..
6 feet 1.
Training 2 years serious ( 2 years that I know how to diet )
weight : 185-190..
BF : Not sure...?
Age : 23 ( first cycle was when I was 21, Yes I know dumb and too young )
Thnx in advance

[GTOne]

Hindley, just curious, how were your gains (how many lbs increase, strength increase, etc.)?

You mention your diet was not in check. Were you not consuming enough calories, not enough protein, or eating to much crap?

[one8nine]

Well I ran 1 cycle , was a test e 10 week 500mg..
Gains were ok, mainly because My diet was not checked...

As of now, my body is like in my avator..about 5 lbs leaner I'd say...also My tattoo is fixed...

anyways, 2 nd should be like this...btw. what I am looking to obtain is a lean bulk, maybe even drop my BF...



it will be 12 week.
Week 1-4 D-Bol 40 mg a day ( this is a ugl edit your post )
Week 1-12 , Sustanon (Organon ) 500 mg per week shot EOD.or just Monday 125-Wednesday 125 Friday 500.

if you do make the bad choice of using that crap shoot it eod

Week 1-10 , Masteron E. 400 mg per week.Shot split in 2 times per week, or if can be shot other please tell me, I wanted to go with Masteron P. but Did not get enough...

you can shoot it more often than that.
e3.5d
e3d
e2d
ed
2x a day
however you want but dont go less than 2x a week

PCT , I have Nolva , Clomid , and Arimidex ...

what dosages and lengths??

I should start it around the 15th of September, I will make a cycle Log..
Pls if there is anything to be adden just go ahead...also I have pics of my Gear, I would post them some other day...

oh yeah stats..
6 feet 1.
Training 2 years serious ( 2 years that I know how to diet )
weight : 185-190..
BF : Not sure...?
Age : 23 ( first cycle was when I was 21, Yes I know dumb and too young )
Thnx in advance

post up your new diet

[Hindley]

Hindley, just curious, how were your gains (how many lbs increase, strength increase, etc.)?

You mention your diet was not in check. Were you not consuming enough calories, not enough protein, or eating to much crap?

My gains was ehmm...187 (started )-204 maybe...kept it to 195...so basically didn't gain as much as I anticipated , ..My strength however was what I most Noticed..around week 4 , it was Test-e cycle..Ok I forgot to mention this..when I was on this Cycle I was taking it with Ephedra pills ( Fat burner pill ), Don't ask me why..It was a terrible mistake Terrible Advice I got..because it took away my appetite...and I think this could have been the reason also, because I woke up every morning with no appetite..
My Protein intake was not enough I wasn't getting enough calories...I was not eating junk and shit, but just not enough to build..

if you do make the bad choice of using that crap shoot it eod

you can shoot it more often than that.
e3.5d
e3d
e2d
ed
2x a day
however you want but dont go less than 2x a week


what dosages and lengths??


post up your new diet

Lol crap....

[Hindley]

I see you are another one who hates Sustanon..... btw thnx for the UG Lab, could have typed it a lil bigger though ..lol

I'm not sure yet about My diet ..
as My Pct ,4 weeks nolva 20 mg ED, Clomid 25 mg ED..
as for Arimidex I'm not sure if I would use it..I just have it by hand if necessary..
so asking about my cycle itself, I think you are the wrong person to ask as you clearly stated it's crap..and you hate sustanon..Thnx anyways..

anyone else have an idea, or anything I Can change?

[one8nine]

Lol crap....

why did you laugh at crap? sust is crap. do you understand esters? probably not because you seem confused my injection frequency. why do you want to use sust instead of something logical like test e or test c

diet?

pct dosages?

[Hindley]

why did you laugh at crap? sust is crap. do you understand esters? probably not because you seem confused my injection frequency. why do you want to use sust instead of something logical like test e or test c

diet?

pct dosages?

I laugh because everytime I read about Sustanon I see alot of people get confused about it, I know it has 4 types of test in it..some release quick, which is why should be shot ED or EOD..and I also noticed alot of people don't like it..well I have seen some people friends of mine, get some excellent gains from it..
I just posted my PCT dosages....
my diet I'm still working on one for this specific Cycle

[one8nine]

I see you are another one who hates Sustanon..... btw thnx for the UG Lab, could have typed it a lil bigger though ..lol

I'm not sure yet about My diet ..
as My Pct ,4 weeks nolva 20 mg ED, Clomid 25 mg ED..
as for Arimidex I'm not sure if I would use it..I just have it by hand if necessary..
so asking about my cycle itself, I think you are the wrong person to ask as you clearly stated it's crap..and you hate sustanon..Thnx anyways..

anyone else have an idea, or anything I Can change?

i really like your pct times and dosages i think you should add an AI though
well i do think its crap- but if youre going to shoot sust and masteron together anyway you should shoot them both together eod

what are your cycle goals? test/masteron is a really great strength/hardness type cycle but if youre looking for mass masteron wouldnt be my number 1 pick
and what makes you want sust over test e or c?

[one8nine]

I laugh because everytime I read about Sustanon I see alot of people get confused about it, I know it has 4 types of test in it..some release quick, which is why should be shot ED or EOD..and I also noticed alot of people don't like it..well I have seen some people friends of mine, get some excellent gains from it..
I just posted my PCT dosages....
my diet I'm still working on one for this specific Cycle

i think sust can give great gains, but test e and c can give better
are you saying that your cycle diet will be different than your off cycle diet?
whats your diet now?

[Phate]

I laugh because everytime I read about Sustanon I see alot of people get confused about it, I know it has 4 types of test in it..some release quick, which is why should be shot ED or EOD..and I also noticed alot of people don't like it..well I have seen some people friends of mine, get some excellent gains from it..
I just posted my PCT dosages....
my diet I'm still working on one for this specific Cycle

well when you get an idea of how you want to diet post it and i'll help critique it

[one8nine]

well when you get an idea of how you want to diet post it and i'll help critique it

i thought you died

[Phate]

i thought you died

i have college from 8 in the morning to 6 at night almost everyday, somedays longer with practices, so i'm gonna die, but it'll be slow and painful, lol, but on weekends i can still tag in with ya

[Hindley]

i really like your pct times and dosages i think you should add an AI though
well i do think its crap- but if youre going to shoot sust and masteron together anyway you should shoot them both together eod

what are your cycle goals? test/masteron is a really great strength/hardness type cycle but if youre looking for mass masteron wouldnt be my number 1 pick
and what makes you want sust over test e or c?

Hmm ok, I could get my hands on some Proviron .( any advice How I take it?)
Ok, ..well I could get my hands on some Test E..but I already have the Susta now so I might just make the best out of it ....

I want to add Mass but also at the same time Lower My BF...

i think sust can give great gains, but test e and c can give better
are you saying that your cycle diet will be different than your off cycle diet?
whats your diet now?

My diet now is about 200 grams of Protein, and about 3000 calories...
but I want to have a better Diet..

well when you get an idea of how you want to diet post it and i'll help critique it

Thnx ..I'll sure ask also for ideas...

[lcstriker07]

You should run an ai on cycle. ie aromasin proviron or arimidex
You need a better ai for PCT arimidex and nolva ruduce each other's productivity. Arimidex at a higher dosage works but you have better options

Are you chosing to run sust because you can shoot it eod along with your masteron? Just for clearity...

[Hindley]

You should run an ai on cycle. ie aromasin proviron or arimidex
You need a better ai for PCT arimidex and nolva ruduce each other's productivity. Arimidex at a higher dosage works but you have better options

Are you chosing to run sust because you can shoot it eod along with your masteron? Just for clearity...

Nopes, just the gear I got my hand on...
The Masteron is ,Masteron E...

[lcstriker07]

Oh yeah, my bad. I have a lot of buddies who have taken test sust, and some of them even did so carelessly (poor diet/poor pct). And They all made excellent gains but a lot of vets here will tell you, that it's a por choice of test. I'd make a poll to see how everyone's experiences with it compared to other esters faired. Then you can make up your own mind as to if it's your best move.

[one8nine]

Hmm ok, I could get my hands on some Proviron .( any advice How I take it?)
Ok, ..well I could get my hands on some Test E..but I already have the Susta now so I might just make the best out of it ....

my pct
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?p=4111013
if you already got sust go for it

I want to add Mass but also at the same time Lower My BF...

these goals are mainly diet dependant, but masteron wont do much to help add mass. maybe think about adding deca. test/deca/masteron would be a really serious stack. if you think its too much no prob but i wouldnt want you to be disappointed

My diet now is about 200 grams of Protein, and about 3000 calories...
but I want to have a better Diet..

diet
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=355744
http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=6
http://www.steroid.com/diet.php
there are some diet links i hope that helps
put together a sample diet and phates the guy to send it to

[Hindley]

Thnx Man you have been more than helpfull..
also I will kickstart with D-Bol week 1-4 40mg...

[one8nine]

Thnx Man you have been more than helpfull..
also I will kickstart with D-Bol week 1-4 40mg...

good call.
you might wanna look into an ai on cycle too striker07 had a great point

estrogen/progesterone side effect control on cycle
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=354229

[Hindley]

Hey wow, thnx man...I guess you really learn something new each day..
I bookmarked all of them, especially the PCT one's..I have to show my friend also..
I'll let you know how I will do my PCT and my Diet..thnx man...

[one8nine]

Hey wow, thnx man...I guess you really learn something new each day..
I bookmarked all of them, especially the PCT one's..I have to show my friend also..
I'll let you know how I will do my PCT and my Diet..thnx man...

no prob bro
anything else, post it up

[Hindley]

sure will do bro..

damn I think I'm going to change my display...I am the only one who has a avator of myself....I feel embarrassed ..

[WARMachine]

No youre not Hindley...

You should just edit out your face...

See mine...

[Hindley]

No youre not Hindley...

You should just edit out your face...

See mine...

Am I that Ugly?.lol..
Ok I'll do that When I get a chance...

[WARMachine]

Well i didnt want to say it... haha

Ask DSM's opinon, hes the one to ask in these kinda situations.