arginine and caffene no good?

[bigjoe30]

i read an article in M&F saying that you shouldnt take arginine and caffene together. anyone know if this is true?

thanks

[Tyler694]

Never heard it, but it'd be good to know.. Anyone?

[bigjoe30]

Never heard it, but it'd be good to know.. Anyone?

im pissed because im trying to find the article now . and i cant LOL

[LatissimusaurousRex]

I never heard of it before? Why is it supposed to be bad? I know they both boost NO levels, and that's why any NO supplement you buy will have both of them in there.

[Nooomoto]

i read an article in M&F saying that you shouldnt take arginine and caffene together. anyone know if this is true?

thanks

If that were true it eliminates an entire segment of the supplement market. I'd like to see literature.

[bigjoe30]

If that were true it eliminates an entire segment of the supplement market. I'd like to see literature.

im not trying to make conversation here i read it im looking now ,i bought 2 mags yesterday i dont know what one it was in .

[bigjoe30]

ok found it

avoid taking stimulants when your ingesting arginie. caffeine and arginine together raise cortisol levels , ultimatley resulting in an increase in muscle breakdown.

this came from pg 128 reps mag sring 2010

[Nooomoto]

ok found it

avoid taking stimulants when your ingesting arginie. caffeine and arginine together raise cortisol levels , ultimatley resulting in an increase in muscle breakdown.

this came from pg 128 reps mag sring 2010

Does it reference a study at all? Or does it just say that?

[LatissimusaurousRex]

You can't really go by these fitness magazines. A few months from now they'll have another study proving the opposite. I'm guilty of reading them too from time to time when I'm in a situation where I'm waiting. But really they gotta come up with new sh*t every month to put out a magazine. It just banks off the fact that people are dumb and they stop short of their goals so every month someone will be on their NEW 12 week program to bigger arms. I'm sure ALL of the great bodybuilders past and present ingest arginine and caffeine daily and it has little to no ill effect, if anything I'm sure it's good for you. Every Fin NO supplement has them and you know no ones gonna give up their NO. Don't go by these magazines, most of the info is true, but they gotta put out a new one every month so they can get your money. And if they had to I'm sure they'd put in any old half-ass study they need to, to fill up those pages. I'm trying to avoid a rant here, but you get the picture

[bigjoe30]

Does it reference a study at all? Or does it just say that?

nothing about a study, i also read where taking arginine and creatine together is no good because the argine pump gets cancelled out by the creatine.

[Nooomoto]

nothing about a study, i also read where taking arginine and creatine together is no good because the argine pump gets cancelled out by the creatine.

If there's not study then I just chalk it up to people talking out of their asses.

[bigjoe30]

If there's not study then I just chalk it up to people talking out of their asses.

i hear ya! screw it just had a turbo tea and arginine gonna hit it in 20 min.

[Tyler694]

If there's not study then I just chalk it up to people talking out of their asses.

I'm with this^

[IM708]

They are basing off the logic of they would negate each other, Arginine a precusor to nitric oxide which is a vasodilator being combined with caffeine which is a vasoconstrictor. Logically it makes sense, but does it play out that way in the real world? Don't know, experiment on yourself to find out.

[bigjoe30]

They are basing off the logic of they would negate each other, Arginine a precusor to nitric oxide which is a vasodilator being combined with caffeine which is a vasoconstrictor. Logically it makes sense, but does it play out that way in the real world? Don't know, experiment on yourself to find out.

thanks for your input.

i also read an article about creatine and arginine together is no good (this came from supplement company)they said when the 2 are taken together your are getting the pump from the creatine.

[IM708]

thanks for your input.

i also read an article about creatine and arginine together is no good (this came from supplement company)they said when the 2 are taken together your are getting the pump from the creatine.

Now that's fvckin retarded.... jesus. Creatine doesn't give you a pump, period. I mean if they came up with something a little more logical like competitive inhibition, then I'd say it's potentially plausible, but that's just dumb.

[bigjoe30]

Now that's fvckin retarded.... jesus. Creatine doesn't give you a pump, period. I mean if they came up with something a little more logical like competitive inhibition, then I'd say it's potentially plausible, but that's just dumb.

im gonna see if i could find that add it was from bb.com i think. all this crap iv been reading got me crazy.

[kiddo24]

The creatine arginine cancelling thing doesn't make any sense. Creatine is made up of 3 aminos, glycine, methionine and ARGININE!