I think im ready could use advise

[Hammer450r]

Ok I really learned alot about my diet from here and it has really helped not only gains but overall strength and intensity in the gym.
I have access to anything i want and i want to know how i should start.
Pill or inject?
What kind?
How often?
Not looking to go crazy here just alittle help. im 41 yrs old 6'1" 188 lbs.
Worked out all my life off and on but i was a framer for 20 yrs and i raced MX practicing 4 nights a week so even if i had my diet spot on then id have to eat 8000 calories a day just maintain lol.
If this is something you guys have been over many times before i understand but maybe point me in the right direction to learn. Thanks all great site

[Chev]

Do some research on the "first cycle" section. Tons of info, keep it simple.

[Hammer450r]

Thanks im all about being simple...wait that didnt sound to good did it lol

[calgarian]

IMO never use pills BAD on liver....and if u r not sure if u r ready for AAS or not u probably arent ready.Plus you need to read up educational threads before u start asking these questions also its is PREFERRED that u r 25 yrs old or older before u even think about AAS.
Whats ur stats?

[Calcium]

Check out the education area, its got a ton of quality threads in there and I am sure your questions will be answered.

[Hammer450r]

IMO never use pills BAD on liver....and if u r not sure if u r ready for AAS or not u probably arent ready.Plus you need to read up educational threads before u start asking these questions also its is PREFERRED that u r 25 yrs old or older before u even think about AAS.
Whats ur stats?

As i said in first post im 41 but man i wish i was still 25 lol

[edmen2]

IMO never use pills BAD on liver....and if u r not sure if u r ready for AAS or not u probably arent ready.Plus you need to read up educational threads before u start asking these questions also its is PREFERRED that u r 25 yrs old or older before u even think about AAS.
Whats ur stats?

he's 41 and i agree about the orals! no orals over here either! read up on the test only cycles but im wonderin about ur diet and gains. u say this site has helped. what kind of gains have u made in one month? not flaming just figuring if ur making great gains in one month u wouldnt even need a cycle til u plateau!

[calgarian]

As i said in first post im 41 but man i wish i was still 25 lol

if u did everything by the book u will be feeling 25

[calgarian]

he's 41 and i agree about the orals! no orals over here either! read up on the test only cycles but im wonderin about ur diet and gains. u say this site has helped. what kind of gains have u made in one month? not flaming just figuring if ur making great gains in one month u wouldnt even need a cycle til u plateau!

what he said

[Morgoth]

@OP: Run an anavar only cycle. It will tell you how your body reacts to steroids, and will also give you good results. Plus Anavar is very mild, so you wont experience any sides.

[edmen2]

@OP: Run an anavar only cycle. It will tell you how your body reacts to steroids, and will also give you good results. Plus Anavar is very mild, so you wont experience any sides.

are u serious or being sarcastic! how r u just gonna say here put this poison in ur body? and btw its a mild poison! thats not good advice bro!

[calgarian]

are u serious or being sarcastic! how r u just gonna say here put this poison in ur body? and btw its a mild poison! thats not good advice bro!

i think he is serious.........

[edmen2]

i think he is serious.........

[calgarian]

ok tell u easy way......go see ur doctor tell him to check ur test levels . If they are low ask him to prescribe test for u. if u r in Canada u r lucky to be 41 cause of health care system if u r in US I dont know how it works over there. But get the blood work done and cause u r over 40 doctor likely put u on TRT. do that and we will go from there. Normal first cycle is test at 500mg/week and u will remember how it felt to be 25 again.

[calgarian]

about using anavar.

[Hammer450r]

TRT? I had blood work done last month and all my levels were spot on

[edmen2]

about using anavar.

yeah!

[Hammer450r]

he's 41 and i agree about the orals! no orals over here either! read up on the test only cycles but im wonderin about ur diet and gains. u say this site has helped. what kind of gains have u made in one month? not flaming just figuring if ur making great gains in one month u wouldnt even need a cycle til u plateau!

Well i gained about 3-4 pounds I know it dont sound like much but for me im very satisfied. dont worry about flamming if its not for me then its not for me thats why im here to figure it out.
I also have a 3 day off every week, its just how my schedule is.
mon chest tri
tues back bi
wed legs calfs
thurs shoulders abs forearms

fri sat sun off, could this slow down my gains also?

[calgarian]

TRT? I had blood work done last month and all my levels were spot on

damn it......cause u r 41....500 mg of test /week. every one would come up and flame me i dont care u r old enough go for it tell ur better half to be ready to sexed up

[edmen2]

Well i gained about 3-4 pounds I know it dont sound like much but for me im very satisfied. dont worry about flamming if its not for me then its not for me thats why im here to figure it out.
I also have a 3 day off every week, its just how my schedule is.
mon chest tri
tues back bi
wed legs calfs
thurs shoulders abs forearms

fri sat sun off, could this slow down my gains also?

at 41 u will love a test only cycle! ur body will feel 18 again but make sure u read up on the profiles and side effects! also read up on pct and how ur body will and emotions will feel post cycle! while on u will feel great but post cycle sucks! u also may wanna prepare ur wife for 2 or 3 a day sessions! and a little

[edmen2]

damn u beat me to it! im still a lil rusty!

[gunslinger2]

I'd say first learn everything you can. I can tell by your post you may still have a little ways to go.

That said when you are ready a 10-12 week test only cycle at 500mg per week would be a great start. You may also wanna do 20-30mg per day of dbol for the first 4-6 weeks. Orals are not the instant liver death that some make them out to be.

[Hammer450r]

Hahaha, prepare the wife that funny. I said wife not girlfriend lol So your saying not only will i be eating chicken alot but now ill be chocking it too lol
Ok as soon as i figure out all the other things i need to do ill post my plan and see if you guys agree, I really can't thank you all enough

[Hammer450r]

I'd say first learn everything you can. I can tell by your post you may still have a little ways to go.

That said when you are ready a 10-12 week test only cycle at 500mg per week would be a great start. You may also wanna do 20-30mg per day of dbol for the first 4-6 weeks. Orals are not the instant liver death that some make them out to be.

Funny you say that because the guy i can get them from suggests orals but he had something to take with it to protect the liver. But now this is only the second time i heard it, my dr friend says to inject.

[calgarian]

Hahaha, prepare the wife that funny. I said wife not girlfriend lol So your saying not only will i be eating chicken alot but now ill be chocking it too lol
Ok as soon as i figure out all the other things i need to do ill post my plan and see if you guys agree, I really can't thank you all enough

chicken I would say one will be enough but chocking I dont think 1 will satisfy you.

stick with test see how ur body react I am personally not a big fan of stacking up on the first cycle. so 500 of test e or test p(if u dont mind injecting each day) would be fine.
Please dont curse at me if after having 3 sessions of sex and u still have a hard on

[Hammer450r]

chicken I would say one will be enough but chocking I dont think 1 will satisfy you.

[Hammer450r]

Each day? i was told once a week...and i do mean the injections

[calgarian]

Each day? i was told once a week

so there are 2 kind of easters Long and short. Shorter goes in and out of your body quick so if u r prone to side effects u use short easter. like test prop.
Long easters take longer to build up and takes 3-5 weeks to fully maintain the blood level. but still for long easters u have to inject twice a week. for example Monday and thursday. like test cyp or test e

[gunslinger2]

Funny you say that because the guy i can get them from suggests orals but he had something to take with it to protect the liver. But now this is only the second time i heard it, my dr friend says to inject.

Injecting is not stressful on the liver because the compounds bypass digestion. There is a recent trend to demonize orals as being super harsh on the liver. They can be depending on what you take and how much you take. Thats why you need to do lots of research. Not all injectables are great for you either, just look at tren.