What would be a good safe first cycle 45 years old

[streeter]

OK those that have read my other posts know I am 45 years old and have went from a fat 260 pounds to 175 pounds. My "T" has been tested 3 times and has been between 189 to 390. I am not foolish and want to be safe. I want to lose the last bit of left over belly fat while gaining mass.

I have been reading relentlessly and have gone from someone knowing nothing about steroids to someone who knows just enough to have a conversation about it. I am not stubborn and say I will do a cycle no matter what. I really want to live a long life but if I can make progress safely I would like to.

I have changed my diet alot and changed the way I lift. I have gained 5 pounds of what I think is muscle in the last month maybe some fat as well hard to tell.

From what I have learned if I did a cycle I think from my reading it would be relatively safe to go with Testosterone cypionate 400mg a week for 6weeks?

From my reading I may need to stack it with HCG and/or 5 alpha-reductase enzyme but I do not know how much yet or how long etc... Then after the last injection which I have never done an injection on myself so I still need to know the pin size for the arse area and hope I learn how to hit the safe spot and can do it without getting to squeemish LOL

I then think I wait 18 days after last injection to start PCT. I still am unsure what I need to take for this and how much and for how long.

All the while dieting right and getting plenty of protein most carbs in the morning weening off carbs through the day and eating good fats for energy late in the day.

So I don't plan on doing any of this until after September when I return from vacation in NY. I have learned you don't start until you have all supplies on hand, leave nothing to fate.

So am I on the right track? Am I learning? I leave all this to people I really trust here and do not want to make a mistake. My kids are grown up Ive been snipped so no more kids for me anyways. I have a wife and a grandson on the way so I do not take this lightly.

I am open to any and all advise like I said I am not foolish enough to think I know enough already. I would like some really experienced people on here to create a detailed plan for me to look over and ask questions. I have time to do this right but again I am 45 so I don't want to wait until I am 50 either

Anyone want to help out a retired military guy get in the best shape of his life and remain healthy? I don't need to get huge or try to be the next Arnold as if I could anyways. I look to you guys as the pros on this I don't think doctors know more than you guys so I put a lot of trust in your opinion. I would really love the admins here and the long time members to help me plan this out. Please PM me and help me plan this out I will post my progress with you. Thanks for listening.

I believe I have been on here long enough to know where to get supplies so thats not an issue I don't think. I have not bought a thing as of yet I will be patient and wait for good advise. remember I am very respectful of the fact this can be dangerous so I want to get it right. If you think I should leave it alone and everyone agrees then I will go with that but I am hoping my quality of life can be improved by undergoing this.

I was told I should also use HGH with the cycle does this sound right? If so how much again If I had a detailed plan of attack I could research the hell out of it and get second and third opinions before going for it.

Don't take for granted I understand all the numbers like 70/130/500mL TestCyp 300mg/mL I don't know what the 70 represents or the 130 I believe the 500 is the total amount? but what is the 300mg/ml?

Sorry for being in a rush to learn but I am excited about learning all this as much as doing a first cycle which may be my only one if I can get the gains I want and feel better.

Anyways I don't know what else to say here so I will close. I have met some really helpful people on here and figure the more people that agree with what I should do the better chances are I will do it correctly.

By the way Docs wont put me on HRT because I went over 300 last two tests go figure I was 189 just as I lost 90 pounds and now that I am sprinting eating right and doing some cardio my level comes up enough they won't touch me. I should have went to the doctors when I was 260 pounds I bet I was 150 or lower then.

I called my dad who is 66 years old and he just got tested he is over 700 so I guess my twenty years of drinking, smoking no exercise and being overweight really hurt me.

[streeter]

P.S. I know all the answers are probably somewhere in the forum but at the rate I am able to research this I was hoping to get a more one on one with the pros on this to create something just for me. I am reading about storage now what needs to be in the fridge and what does not go in the fridge. There is so much Info on here it sometimes overwhelmes me that is why yes call it a shortcut but I feel if I just do this from my reading I might miss something and I have read about so many others on here messing up their bodies from broken D**** to acne to no sex drive etc.. it's enough to really scare a newbie like myself that is why I would rather have you guys help me detail it all out so I don't miss a thing. Thanks in advance.

[BJJ]

Well, I am not the admin of this forum either a MOD/VET or an experienced BB to advise you, since this is what you are looking for (wisely).

However, I can tell you what I would do if I were you, since I started my very first AAS cycle at 36 years old with 20 years of training.

You speak about long esters for your cycle but I would suggest you a short ester instead. First of all to have it out of your system in a few days only, instead of a few weeks in case something goes wrong ,second because of the less chance to get sides and third because you can easily run a 6 weeks cycle only and get some good results anyway.

Furthemore, I would combine rHGH at your age for sure since the beginning of the cycle and throughout of it till after PCT, if you can afford it.

PS
Complete stats?

[moretex]

id say dont do it

[BJJ]

Forgot, if you want to know how to lower your test levels to get the HRT prescription, just PM me.

I cannot write it here, you never know newbie... they might to something stupid especially if minor.

[streeter]

Well, I am not the admin of this forum either a MOD/VET or an experienced BB to advise you, since this is what you are looking for (wisely).

However, I can tell you what I would do if I were you, since I started my very first AAS cycle at 36 years old with 20 years of training.

You speak about long esters for your cycle but I would suggest you a short ester instead. First of all to have it out of your system in a few days only, instead of a few weeks in case something goes wrong ,second because of the less chance to get sides and third because you can easily run a 6 weeks cycle only and get some good results anyway.

Furthemore, I would combine rHGH at your age for sure since the beginning of the cycle and throughout of it till after PCT, if you can afford it.

PS
Complete stats?

So what would be a good short ester and do you have time sometime to create a good cycle for me to look at? Maybe something you have already done and it worked well?

[vegasbound]

Six weeks is too short IMO, Go 10-12 weeks. The test won't kick in for a few weeks, and if you stop at 6 weeks you will really only have 3 weeks of being "ON".

I'd stick with the cypionate for your 1st cycle, less sticks to worry about IMO..

[streeter]

id say dont do it

Well there's one for don't do it. I will take that advice into consideration as well but can you tell me why you give that advise? Is there a particular reason you think I shouldn't other than the risks involved. Risk is why I am here to try to minimize it as much as possible.

[streeter]

Six weeks is too short IMO, Go 10-12 weeks. The test won't kick in for a few weeks, and if you stop at 6 weeks you will really only have 3 weeks of being "ON".

So a short ester or stick with Testcy for 10 to 12 weeks? I am loving the fact you guys are trying to help me out thanks.

[BJJ]

So what would be a good short ester and do you have time sometime to create a good cycle for me to look at? Maybe something you have already done and it worked well?

I would jump on aas and get out ASAP, that is why a short ester.

6 Weeks on prop can lead to good things if the body responds well, the diet is in check as well as the training.

I would go for testosterone propionate @ 70 mg ed along with mesterolone @ 100 mg ed and rHGH @ 4 iu ed.
Exemestane (aromasin) on hand just in case.

I helped you with the cycle lol, but you line up the PCT, ok?

[jojomcgo]

Six weeks is too short IMO, Go 10-12 weeks. The test won't kick in for a few weeks, and if you stop at 6 weeks you will really only have 3 weeks of being "ON".

I'd stick with the cypionate for your 1st cycle, less sticks to worry about IMO..

well i would have to agree with bjj a shorter ester in my personal (opinion)
at your age i mean who knows what kinda of sides or what could go wrong and in that event i would take having to pin my self more then having to wait 2 weeks for it to get out of my system..

[streeter]

OK Short ester is what I will start researching TestProp the most likely. So there is one piece of the puzzle hopefully LOL
By the way I understand 70 mg what does ed mean? everyday?

[streeter]

Guys I gotta hit the gym before work I will check all the replies and PM,s after work tonight . Thank again
So for now I will take my creatine my NO shotgun and yes laugh it up I bought those silly Pink Magic so I might as well try them right. God I have wasted so much money on supps through the years

[40plusnewbie]

Might want to look into HGH at your age (I"m 43) to consider as an option at some point. From the little research I have done I have it on slate for my future and more recently learned of it's benefits re: connective tissues which makes it even more appealing.

Have you had blood work done? Is your blood pressure, cholesterol, etc looking ok?

[TKO Performance]

Test will help out your connective tissue too, because it will aromatize to estrogen, which moderates collagen synthesis and the body's anti-inflmatory reaction.

Truthfully I think test is going to be safer and have fewer potential side effects than HGH, depending on the dosage of course. Do you really need your skull and feet to grow? Also, some report tendonitis, and joint pain with HGH. A lot of people claim it's a cure all, but do some serious research.

Another thing to consider if you want reduced fat would be Anavar. Most will suggest test as a first cycle, but you could also stack in some Anavar, or do your test cycle, wait, and then do an Anavar cycle or a stack of Anavar and test.

At 45 you're at or very near the end of where you could gain strength and mass naturally. Still your lifting program is very important, and I am hoping that you have at least two years of consistent lifiting under your belt. If not I'd advise doing that and then thinking about a cycle. Otherwise you risk injury, which no offense, at your age will be slow to heal. I've found that even in my 30s I don't bounce back the way I did when I was in my 20s. As the metabolism slows so does the regenerative process.

[ds53]

Dude, I'm 53 and worked out naturally all my life and have been big and strong till about 51. Thats when my cookies crumbled, lost strength, muscle size, testicals strunk and on and on.. I had blood levels checked and was low. With only 200 mg a week things were better, a lot better. At 4 weeks bumped it up to 300 and made some really great gains, lost body fat ect.. At your age it wont take much to get back into feeling strong and making gains and still be able to keep the prescribing dr. happy. With Cyp alway take your blood test 12-15 days after your last shot and always in the afternoon. Your levels will come in mid-normal and the dr. will keep giving you prescriptions with room to spare. My dr. always has at least 1 or 2 extra re-fills over the prescribed treatment. Don't mess it up by getting your blood test early in the cycle or in the am., your test levels will be a lot higher in the morning than the afternoon. You will have extra test to find where you optimum levels are and you can relay this to the dr.

Good Luck!