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    struggling with hcg

    finding it really hard to understand this stuff
    say im running a 14 weeks course of test and deca
    1-14 test 800mg
    1-14 deca 800mg
    i have been told to run 250iu of hcg twice a week for the whole cycle
    i have also been told to run 250iu hcg three times a week for the whole cycle
    if i did this do i stop at the end of the cycle or keep running it into pct
    pct will consist of
    nolva 40/20/20/20
    clomid 100/50/50/50
    when should i finish the hcg (i have also been told that while running hcg i should run nolva so should i run nolva all the way through the cycle)
    theres so many differnet opinions im getting really confused
    another thing is does hcg have to be kept in the fridge

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    any1 guys

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigfella View Post
    finding it really hard to understand this stuff
    say im running a 14 weeks course of test and deca
    1-14 test 800mg
    1-14 deca 800mg
    i have been told to run 250iu of hcg twice a week for the whole cycle
    i have also been told to run 250iu hcg three times a week for the whole cycle
    if i did this do i stop at the end of the cycle or keep running it into pct
    pct will consist of
    nolva 40/20/20/20
    clomid 100/50/50/50
    when should i finish the hcg (i have also been told that while running hcg i should run nolva so should i run nolva all the way through the cycle)
    theres so many differnet opinions im getting really confused
    another thing is does hcg have to be kept in the fridge
    I hear the name swifto mentioned a lot here on the site for PCT and HCG info. You can find his threads.
    IMO. Especially if you are running something like Deca the 250 IU x2 weekly sounds good. By my understanding this helps continue to stimulate your natural test producers and keep them from shutting down. HPTA is Hypothalamus-Pituitary-Testes-Axis. If you can keep it up and running during cycle, PCT becomes a breeze. As for Nolva, yes I ran a small dose while on 10mg daily. As for ending HCG I ended mine on the 14th day after last pin of deca. I then start my Clomid & Nolva very similar to how yours is listed. Yes i keep mine in fridge.
    I’m a rookie so check out the PCT thread.
    Good luck Mate

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    older studies used to say to take HCG at the end of your cycle to kick start your PCT. However, nowadays people state that you should run it at the doses you are stating.. i am doing 250iu 2x a week and can say that i wish i had done it this way from the get go.. you will see no ball shrinkage and will help your PCT recovery dramatically by doing it through out your whole cycle.. you can run it all the way through your cycle up to when you start PCT.. some people will say that you do not need to start it until week 4 since it takes a few weeks for your body to shut down.. i started in week 4 and am running it until week 13 (ten weeks total) of my cycle 12 weeks of 600mgtestE and 400mgt Deca per week..

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    ok so say i run it starting week 4, do i start taking nolva 10mg a day from week 4 aswel
    the bit im most confused about is when i get to the end of my cycle, do i up the dose of hcg until i start the nolva and clomid then stop taking the hcg

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigfella View Post
    ok so say i run it starting week 4, do i start taking nolva 10mg a day from week 4 aswel
    the bit im most confused about is when i get to the end of my cycle, do i up the dose of hcg until i start the nolva and clomid then stop taking the hcg
    I would start the nolva as to provide the block for all the extra estrogen. And 10mg seemed to be enough for me.
    I would contiune HCG until the ester for the drugs you are on are out of your system. 14 days I think. At that end I would then start your pct as you have outlined above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigfella View Post
    finding it really hard to understand this stuff
    say im running a 14 weeks course of test and deca
    1-14 test 800mg
    1-14 deca 800mgrun deca lower then test
    i have been told to run 250iu of hcg twice a week for the whole cycleits good
    i have also been told to run 250iu hcg three times a week for the whole cyclenot so good
    if i did this do i stop at the end of the cycle or keep running it into pcttill pct not in pct start at week 3 you will require 8000iu I think
    pct will consist of
    nolva 40/20/20/20
    clomid 100/50/50/50
    when should i finish the hcg (i have also been told that while running hcg i should run nolva so should i run nolva all the way through the cycle)as above
    theres so many differnet opinions im getting really confused
    another thing is does hcg have to be kept in the fridgeyes
    suggestions in red

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