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    drpped weight in last week :(

    **** it, down 2kgs this week to 99kgs, puts me in the 100kg class, need to be in 110kg class by Sat morn. 250mgs test e per day and 500grms oats per day for the next 8 days it is then!

    Tren has really kicked in and must be lowering my b/f water weight
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    10 egg whites
    2 1/2 c. Steel cut oats
    2 c. Greek yogurt w/ fruit
    1/2 c whole milk

    Blend on liquefy drink 2-3 a day

    Best I've got

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    if an overabundance of whole milk every day doesn't make you gain what will?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HitIt View Post
    if an overabundance of whole milk every day doesn't make you gain what will?
    This.....

    Best way m8

    Get the gold cap milk..... Get some schoolmate milk too....


    Make up bread and butter puddings..... All you can eat chineese....

    Gold cap milk with whey protein....



    Man I would love to have to put 2 lbs of shit weight on for sumat like that

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    Quote Originally Posted by baseline_9 View Post
    This.....

    Best way m8

    Get the gold cap milk..... Get some schoolmate milk too....


    Make up bread and butter puddings..... All you can eat chineese....

    Gold cap milk with whey protein....



    Man I would love to have to put 2 lbs of shit weight on for sumat like that
    i started the ultimate this morning (which is my night):

    500g natural yoghurt
    400ml milk
    2 scoops USN igf slow release
    50grms fine cut oats
    half a cup dessicated almonds

    blend and water down so drinkable rather than chewable. my gut now resembles Big Daddy's lol

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    On 5000cals atm, the extra 300 grms oats and the extra 2g of test bumping water weight will hopefully swing it. Use semi skimmed milk in all shakes which contain the oats also, don't want too many fats making me sluggish.

    Anymore experienced ideas lads?

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    sorry, noob question. isn't it better to compete in a lower weight class? or is it too boring to totally blow away the competition?

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    Cut adex down from 1mg eod to .5mg eod
    Running:

    40mg dbol
    100mg drol
    450mg tren
    300mg test e
    On top of nebido shot at start of Aug

    Going to nail 2.5g of test over the weekend so it's peaking next sat and hope it bumps the water weight

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    Nevermind you just posted that as i was typing.

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    No, I'll be up against a 335kg world record holder in that division. I'm hoping for 300 and I'm more competitive in 110kg division even at the bottom of the weight class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11
    No, I'll be up against a 335kg world record holder in that division. I'm hoping for 300 and I'm more competitive in 110kg division even at the bottom of the weight class.
    Why not just win the lower weight class?

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    but if you are 99 kg couldn't you drop down to the lower weight class or is it same day weigh ins?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SEOINAGE View Post
    but if you are 99 kg couldn't you drop down to the lower weight class or is it ame day weigh ins?
    99kg IS putting me in a lower weight class, I don't want to be in it, I want to be at least 100.1 to lift in 110kg class

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    99kg IS putting me in a lower weight class, I don't want to be in it, I want to be at least 100.1 to lift in 110kg class
    I'm talking the weight class even below that one. it's possible

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    Quote Originally Posted by SEOINAGE View Post
    I'm talking the weight class even below that one. it's possible
    I think you don't understand this pal, the next division is 90kgs, why on earth would I attempt to start losing almost 20lbs in 8days?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gearbox View Post
    Why not just win the lower weight class?
    cos I won't be competitive and the Irish 110kg raw deadlift record is only 270kg which I should stuff unless there's any dark horses on the day

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    Quote Originally Posted by gearbox View Post
    Why not just win the lower weight class?
    cos I won't be competitive and the Irish 110kg raw deadlift record is only 270kg which I should stuff unless there's any dark horses on the day

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    he's saying the the lower weight division has the 335kg record holder.

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    i've got a noob answer. if you think tren is somehow countering your weight gain, and currently weight is more a concern than anything else, why not drop it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by asiandude View Post
    i've got a noob answer. if you think tren is somehow countering your weight gain, and currently weight is more a concern than anything else, why not drop it?
    and noob it is lol. Cos it's giving me insane strength and aggression. I'm not being ungrateful but I've a grip on what I'm doing and seek tips from experienced guys to just bump that bit of extra weight, I have already had 22lbs weight on since start of Aug

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    and noob it is lol. Cos it's giving me insane strength and aggression. I'm not being ungrateful but I've a grip on what I'm doing and seek tips from experienced guys to just bump that bit of extra weight, I have already had 22lbs weight on since start of Aug
    still learning, so i was more interested to hear your reasoning than expecting you to follow. cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by asiandude View Post
    still learning, so i was more interested to hear your reasoning than expecting you to follow. cheers
    no worries

    Dbol/drol for water weight and joint ease with good strength

    Tren for strength/aggression and keeps bf at bay on a big cal count

    Test for all-around function

    Didn't bargain on the tren lowering weight that much considering the dbol drol cocktail, hence looking for exp views. But if extra cals and 2gs test don't shift me up then idk!

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    You could lower your ai dose.......

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    How about upping your sodium last couple days to hold some water

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    Dec i thought you had given up on AAS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulkn View Post
    Dec i thought you had given up on AAS?
    i have after next Sat, bored with cycling and heavy lifting now. HGH only after this with maybe a few light var runs a year, but certainly never thrashing on the weight again, will sit nicely at 90kgs

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    Its funny how some do not understand your experience and just how precise pl is just like being on stage or so many little things can make a big difference

    Good luck and let us know your results!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gearbox View Post
    Its funny how some do not understand your experience and just how precise pl is just like being on stage or so many little things can make a big difference

    Good luck and let us know your results!!!
    yep, its ultimately a peaking of a combination of things and one slight oversight or change just throws your psychology right out the window and then doubt creeps in, game over and you missed your top lift............

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    Great to see you back man, I go away on hols and everything changes lol. Nice work and goodluck I presume today bud

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    Quote Originally Posted by DCI View Post
    Great to see you back man, I go away on hols and everything changes lol. Nice work and goodluck I presume today bud
    nxt Sat mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    nxt Sat mate.
    Where is it man, might pop along for a nose

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    Set the alarm for the middle or drink a pint of water before bed so you get up for a piss and eat something or drink a weight gain shake. Comes on think and fast

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    Set the alarm for the middle or drink a pint of water before bed so you get up for a piss and eat something or drink a weight gain shake. Comes on think and fast
    yeah i'll have a shake with 100grms oats midway through the night and on the morning i'll sink 1-2ltrs of water right before weigh in if i have to.

    weighed myself again 10mins ago and im 100.4kgs

    thinking maybe the fact i lowered my AI during the week has helped as well. have that tight strong full feeling creeping in again, blasted through an arm workout today like a beast as if it was a warm up

    one more prep lift session on Mon, i'll lift to my intended 2nd lift and should have a good gauge after that.

    didnt get my fookin test tonight and hope that doesnt play on my mind too much.

    but ive still 400ml of tren a, 700mg adrol and 320mg dbol to do this week. i suspect my 1st bottle of tren was under
    dosed because i usually get heartburn on tren and didnt get it or the sweats, started the 2nd btl from a diff lab start of last week and the heartburn is raging in me since y'day, its taking 2 doses of strong prescribed meds to kill it and im sweating at night!!
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    When is the comp? Take it slow pulling your 2nd lift

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    Quote Originally Posted by gearbox View Post
    When is the comp? Take it slow pulling your 2nd lift
    next week, always go to 2nd lift the week before, sets me up psychologically

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11
    next week, always go to 2nd lift the week before, sets me up psychologically
    You still take off about 5 days before comp?
    What 3 weights are you hitting (last one obviously an attempt)

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    Quote Originally Posted by gearbox View Post
    You still take off about 5 days before comp?
    What 3 weights are you hitting (last one obviously an attempt)
    yeah, running a load of gear so recovery is much faster.

    had trained for:

    260
    280
    never attempt a 3rd in training

    but will go:

    255
    275
    300 (i hope )

    i always peel of 5kgs of my 1st and 2nd's on the day, gives me a psychological edge without too big a jump up to the one i want.

    kept tearing my left hand open on the 280 to the point of bleeding, so it could be a fookin painful attempt at the 300 on the day
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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11
    yeah, running a load of gear so recovery is much faster.

    had trained for:

    260
    280
    never attempt a 3rd in training

    but will go:

    255
    275
    300 (i hope )

    i always peel of 5kgs of my 1st and 2nd's on the day, gives me a psychological edge without too big a jump up to the one i want.

    kept tearing my left hand open on the 280 to the point of bleeding, so it could be a fookin painful attempt at the 300 on the day
    Awesome. Keep us posted and wrap the left hand in something if possible

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    fvckin awful last session this morning, worked up to 255kgs and although it went up ok, it felt like 1000kgs and my nose fvckin burst all over the place into the bargain.

    ah well better to have a bad one now than on the day i suppose!

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    on a plus, i just managed to score some 400mg/ml e,c and p blend test. a ml per day it is!
    Last edited by dec11; 09-10-2012 at 03:41 AM.

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